It's 10 bucks if you live in the US. Some of us don't

Most flightsimmers don't!

Prepar3d might just be the future of computer flight simulation, so I strongly wish PMDG would at least seriously investigate/follow the options of porting the NGX and future products for it. Now that it seems that FLIGHT will be nothing more than a small flying game, where you only fly in Hawaii, Prepar3d seems like the way to go for the future.

Whats to be "Ported" .. The PMDG 737NG already can be installed to run on P3D. There have been more than enough posts, just in this forum, that show this. As far as P3D is concerned, If you can't affort $10 / month, you don't get to play with P3D, -- just like, if you cannot afford $500 / month, you don't get to buy/lease an expensive automobile. For $10 / Month, not ony do you get P3D, but more importantly, you get to interact with the guys actulaly developing the product, and can get to share your ideas and visions with them. They listen .. they are just as dedicated as you are.Unlike FSX, you can get to help shape what P3D becomes. If you don't want to do that, go blow your $10/month on Fast Food, -- the choice is your. So, to answer the Original Poster -- NO. It's Not Necessary ... it already works with P3D -- just needs a little file copying to get it up and running. If PMDG developed a P3D installer in SP1, then that would only add more delays to SP1, and only benefit the very few ( probably less than 5 !! ), who cannot be bothered to read a few posts, and find out how to install it themselve for P3D, without a "Spoon Feeding" installer. PS: We are fortunate that PMDG does not seem to be forcing those that want to run the 737NG on P3D, to buy a more expensive Commercial License.

They said that it would take some serious time to do that BUT, they said they would eventually make the migration to 64Bit.

I certainly can wait for that. Meanwhile I'm going to think about the secret why this company is developing a simulator like this.

I'll start to get interested when LM replace the flight model for something approaching reality. Best regards,Robin.

I'll start to get interested when LM replace the flight model for something approaching reality. Best regards,Robin.

As far as I know they have some kind of new system which enables you to use some kind of new external flight model system.

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As far as I know they have some kind of new system which enables you to use some kind of new external flight model system.

Correct -- You can use your own EXTERNAL flight model system with P3D -- assuming that you have on of your own.I don't believe that currently any P3D developer is offering External Flight Model systems for P3D -- but that may come if there is a demand. .

Correct -- You can use your own EXTERNAL flight model system with P3D -- assuming that you have on of your own.I don't believe that currently any P3D developer is offering External Flight Model systems for P3D -- but that may come if there is a demand. .

True, hopefully some more advanced flight models could be produced with this system.

I think that the real thing to consider is if LM is actually interested in us hobbyists. If every serious flight simmer in the world ponied up $500, it still would amount to less that what any of the many governments around the world give them for one F-16. Think about where they are really marketing their products: It isn't to us. They are in the business of selling as many multi-million dollar aircraft around the world as possible (C-5, C-130/L-100/L-382, C-141, F-16, F-22 Raptor, F-35, P-3/L-188/S-3 and the U-2. Plus all of the many systems they sell in support of these plus the out of manufacture legacy aircraft they still support, ATC and radar systems, space exploration, fire control systems and all of the other things they do are extremely valuable. Investing in hobbyist flight simulation is at the bottom of the list for them. As somebody said, I think they are letting people use Prepar3d to test what will eventually be a very advanced military simulation that we will never get to see. If it was purely a flight simulator, why put in coding for submersibles, unless you want to send your P-3 after a Kilo-class sub, which we have affordable military flight simulators to do for us. Did you ever wonder why Microsoft suddenly gave up one of what had to be one of their most profitable divisions, Aces Studio? Just maybe, it was because Lockheed Martin saw the potential of FSX for a full blown military simulator and offered Bill more than he could refuse for the license and apparently a number of contracts of the programmers at Aces. Anyhow, take your shots at me, but also think about this. Lockheed Martin is not in the hobby business. They are in the war fighting business, and they are good at it.

Well said Rick, yes I did get your sarcasm, I used that to make my point to Ben. You can add to that a $25B contract that was awarded to Halifax Shipbuilding today which LM has partnered with, they do know an awful lot about business and it seems that they just keep getting it right.

I wonder if there is some truth to the rumour that I've read on the A2A forums saying that Microsoft has the right to pull the plug on Prepar3D if they feel that it competes with their target audience for Flight. Supposedly it's part of the licensing agreement with Lockheed.

I wonder if there is some truth to the rumour that I've read on the A2A forums saying that Microsoft has the right to pull the plug on Prepar3D if they feel that it competes with their target audience for Flight. Supposedly it's part of the licensing agreement with Lockheed.

It's possible, p3d's Eula does require that it not be used strictly for personal entertainment.http://www.prepar3d.com/support/end-user-license-agreement-eula/

Fsx is far from perfect however prepar3d has a long way to go before it is as good as fsx.

P3D would at least be as good as FSX because it is FSX. It actually should be better as it has been developed further. I am very interested in this product, and if it becomes supported by the 3rd party developers and gets developed further to allow more new functionality and enhanced features. (hopefully a realistic weather engine, allowing a realistic weather radar) then depending what Flight offers, I may seriously consider. How good would it be if we get basically a whole new sim in P3D, but our existing aircraft and scenery are compatible. If casual simmers start to pick this up, I do hope they introduce a more consumer friendly pricing option.I voted yes, because if the community shows support to the program then it gives the developers more of an incentive to attempt to achieve some amazing things with the platform.

Lockheed Martin is not in the hobby business. They are in the war fighting business, and they are good at it.

It's not really the war fighting business. It's the "don't mess with us because if you do, one of our little high tech planes is going to 5x mess with you business". The best offense is a good defense. Okay, nevermind ... it IS the war fighting business.

$120 a year is DIRT CHEAP to get virtually unlimited access to interact with those developes at LM, who are developing P3D. Most question posed in the P3D forum to LM, get answered by LM with amazingly technical detail. It's actaully an amazing deal -- if you have the need or wish to get involved. I certainly feel that I have got my money's worth as a developer, in the many hours that I have saved, by having tech support, that, in many cases, is just as applicable to FSX. If you have the interest, and want to get involed, you can actually make quite a difference to the direction that P3D is heading.Rather than sitting there, moaning about what is is not, YOU can help make it what it can become. But each to their own .. not eveyone is a "Sponge Bob" fan either BTW: Can someone tell me what the big obsession and priority is to see P3D be "converted" to a 64 bit App. ??? So many seem to be saying they will switch when it becomes 64 bit, but how "EXACTLY" do they think making it 64 Bit will benefit them ??

So many seem to be saying they will switch when it becomes 64 bit, but how "EXACTLY" do they think making it 64 Bit will benefit them ??

It would increase the amount of RAM that FSX can use and prevent it from being seriously affected by large graphics card's video RAM. Basically, if FSX was a 64bit application many problems that people experienced with the NGX (CTDs etc.) wouldn't have occured.