Official Groundroll Enhancement Thread...

[Daniel choen 23]

Hey thanks for putting so much time doing nice things for us. cant anyone here the difference between those and the one that we have in the PMDG? i am definitely not saying PMDG didn't do great job, definitely not!!

[steve inwood 67]

Here is another version of the TOGA Sound.. just adjusted the tone alittle...

 

This is an option to the other one in the above package..

 

http://www.mediafire...9io8y924h4iat88

 

Hey thanks for putting so much time doing nice things for us. cant anyone here the difference between those and the one that we have in the PMDG? i am definitely not saying PMDG didn't do great job, definitely not!!

I understand m8 i don't think you are saying that for one minute.. the issue here is that so many people have different opinions and i guess you can't always cater for everyone's tastes buddy..

[Daniel choen 23]

Here is another version of the TOGA Sound.. just adjusted the tone alittle...

 

This is an option to the other one in the above package..

 

http://www.mediafire...9io8y924h4iat88

 

I understand m8 i don't think you are saying that for one minute.. the issue here is that so many people have different opinions and i guess you can't always cater for everyone's tastes buddy..

thanks anyways(: cheers for that.

[Jet_Airliner 0]

i am definitely not saying PMDG didn't do great job, definitely not!!

None sais that actually. The thing is that they didn't put enough effort in to surround effect for all these sounds. When it's played in FSX, it doesn't give a full feeling of the cockpit.

 

Here is comparison of video

1. with default GPWS

2. with my GPWS

3. Real cockpit

 

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Rz7j2MtuyOc#t=2191s

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OCmwuX00TM4#t=2527s

3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Z3erJvWRbVc#t=201s

[steve inwood 67]

Infact i have been digging about and one of the sound engineers at PMDG stated this i quote..

 

Dear Keith,

 

The surround sound functionality only applies to FSX sounds like engines and not to custom sounds programmed in the panel - the wind sounds do not have the surround functionality as FSX does not support this, so they are stereo files. All PMDG FSX aircraft have mono engine sounds and the corresponding 3D surround sound programming - this is observed particularly in the outside view where the sounds will change as you pan around the aircraft. But any custom sounds like GPWS, TCAS, switches and lever sounds are only stereo files and are not part of the FSX sound system, so they will not vary if the viewpoint is changed.

 

Also, FSX applies the surround sound concept even to stereo speakers - again the sounds vary depending on viewpoint position.

 

Best regards,

Armen

 

None sais that actually. The thing is that they didn't put enough effort in to surround effect for all these sounds. When it's played in FSX, it doesn't give a full feeling of the cockpit.

 

Here is comparison of video

1. with default GPWS

2. with my GPWS

3. Real cockpit

 

1. http://www.youtube.c...2MtuyOc#t=2191s

2. http://www.youtube.c...uX00TM4#t=2527s

3. http://www.youtube.c...rJvWRbVc#t=201s

Leave it with me guys i will try and see if i can do something for you that sounds abit more like what your after yeah...

[Daniel choen 23]

None sais that actually. The thing is that they didn't put enough effort in to surround effect for all these sounds. When it's played in FSX, it doesn't give a full feeling of the cockpit.

 

Here is comparison of video

1. with default GPWS

2. with my GPWS

3. Real cockpit

 

1. http://www.youtube.c...2MtuyOc#t=2191s

2. http://www.youtube.c...uX00TM4#t=2527s

3. http://www.youtube.c...rJvWRbVc#t=201s

thanks, i definitely love your sounds, how did you do it? and also, i found that your sound a little bit slight. ay chance that i can amp those? thanks!

[steve inwood 67]

Yeah sure i use qbase but you can use some free software like Audacity m8 ... any wav editor...

 

Edited ......sorry Daniel i thought that was aimed to me :*)

[petedob 3]

Hey thanks for putting so much time doing nice things for us. cant anyone here the difference between those and the one that we have in the PMDG? i am definitely not saying PMDG didn't do great job, definitely not!!

no.

[Daniel choen 23]

that's ok, you answerd what i would get anyways. thanks.

 

no.

did you actually saw/ listen to those video? it's a fact that they're different you can't just say no.

[Jet_Airliner 0]

And thats example for the stab trim:

 

1. Sim

2. Real

 

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FheAgDDGU6Y#t=724s

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uPk0khqzX-4#t=87s

 

From the real one you hear that If you press if fastly, it goes just like scratch. If you hold it, you can feel the cirling effect of the wheel.

[Daniel choen 23]

And thats example for the stab trim:

 

1. Sim

2. Real

 

1. http://www.youtube.c...AgDDGU6Y#t=724s

2. http://www.youtube.c...k0khqzX-4#t=87s

 

From the real one you hear that If you press if fastly, it goes just like scratch. If you hold it, you can feel the cirling effect of the wheel.

did you do any fix for that?

[Jet_Airliner 0]

Also, FSX applies the surround sound concept even to stereo speakers - again the sounds vary depending on viewpoint position.

I meant not the 5.1 or 7.1 compatibility. I meant the way how the actual sound is recorded.

 

did you do any fix for that?

No, I tried to rip from many different videos, but didn't come up with good result.

 

But, I wrote one letter to 737-800 pilot and asked him to try and record the trim. Maybe we will come up with something more realistic.

[Daniel choen 23]

wow thanks, i really do hope we'll get those sounds, fixed, thanks for your pack.

[steve inwood 67]

Yeah i get you will have a fish about over the weekend m8 see what i can do ... as for the trim ill take alook at that aswell.... i do get what you guys are saying

[Daniel choen 23]

good i am glad, thanks so much for you two.(: