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Been away for quite a while... what is ATC telling me?

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Just started FSX after many years, and just bought RC. (last version I had was RC99...lol) I've been trying to get re-aquainted with RC by following the tutorials. I'm still on the first one....First problem I had was the tutorial wants me to set the departure gate as B3. If I do that I end up out in the grass! I noticed that according to FSX the assignable gates are in either "A" or "D" terminal. I did try updating FSUIPC and makerunways., and rebuilding the RC databases. Same problem...I kind of fixed this by putting my plane at A3 and using A3 instead of B3 in the RC setup.So I have gotten to the departure phase in the flight, I've been handed off to departure, who had me climb to 12,000 then to 15,000. I've then been handed to Chicago center, which gave me the following instruction, "at or above 16 thousand, climb and maintain 200 thousand"... So is the controller telling me to climb to FL200 at a climb rate of 1600 vertical speed??Mike

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I do not own RC, but the correct real life terminology should be, "at or above one-six thousand, climb and maintain two-zero thousand."I suspect a mistake on either your interpretation or the software's part at this point, as it either meant FL200 (Flight Level Two-Zero-Zero) or 20,000ft (two-zero-thousand). 200,000ft is clearly unobtainable to us average virtual pilots.What the command is telling you is that once you reach 16,000ft, you may continue climbing to 20,000ft. The words climb and maintain are always followed by an altitude.

Regarding altitude assignments RC uses local assignments for the area you are flying for transition altitudes where altitude is read in feet or flight levels and crossing the transition altitude is where the switch occurs. With flight levels your altitude is flight level x 100 to read in feet with standard altitude pressure setting of 29.92 in or 1013 mb. If RC commands an altitude in feet then your altimeter is set to local surface pressure. See the manual about transition altitudes. In FAA areas the transition altitude is 18,000 feet and is hard coded in FS as is the 'B' key to adjust your altimeter. Using the 'B' key in other areas could set your altimeter incorrectly. RC will have your copilot voice say altimeter check as you cross the transition altitude boundary.RC4 does not give taxi instructions. Putting a gate in the controller page is just for pronouncing it instead of taxi to the ramp. You can type anything you want in there in alphanumerical combination. RC4 does not use gate IDs pulled from your scenery.If on starting RC it moves your aircraft it means your scenery does not match in RC's data that is pulled from the scenery and it sees your aircraft more than a certain distance from the airport coordinates noted in your flight plan and RC's scenery database.Use an airport diagram or other source to determine the correct gate.If you are emulating a real world flight starting in the US yiou could look at existing real world flights on flightaware.com. Opening up a flight route now shows departure and arrival gates when designated.There are no B gates listed real world for KDSM nor in the FS9 scenery I have. Also you can scroll down in this real world description to Airlines and Destinations and you'll see the gates they use:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Des_Moines_International_AirportThat gate in the tutorial is not valid at least in FS9 downloaded scenery I have.

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i'm not sure about the 200 thousand piece. i don't think rc will ever say that. FL200 maybe.you don't say where you are flying, so the phraseology may be different.if your last clearance was to 15,000, it makes no sense to tell you at or above 16000 climb and maintain 200 thousand. you haven't been cleared to anything abouve 15000if you can duplicate the problem, a log would sure be nice to decipher the problems you're having.instructions are pinned to the top of the forum, make sure you click debug before loading the plan in rcjd

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i'm not sure about the 200 thousand piece. i don't think rc will ever say that. FL200 maybe.you don't say where you are flying, so the phraseology may be different.if your last clearance was to 15,000, it makes no sense to tell you at or above 16000 climb and maintain 200 thousand. you haven't been cleared to anything abouve 15000if you can duplicate the problem, a log would sure be nice to decipher the problems you're having.instructions are pinned to the top of the forum, make sure you click debug before loading the plan in rcjd
hi John,I did the second tutorial, and this time it made more sense. I was told to climb and maintain 15,000, then after a hand off or two I was given a "at or above 15,000, climb and maintain FL220". This made sense, the previous tutorial gave the confusing instruction "at or above 16,000 , climb and maintain FL200"....I'll rerun the tutorial again and listen very closely to see if I'm cleared to a higher altitude BEFORE I get the "at or above..." instruction.However, I have a new problem. In the second tutorial I got the save and load section. I hit the ";" and the fsx save window came up, I entered the "tut2 1 12m MKL FL220 Otto-me H100%" (with out the quotes) and hit OK. After reading the rest of the page about how you could shut everything down and come back to it later, I shut FSX and RC4 down. I came back today, fired up FSX and RC4, hit the "load previously saved .RCD" button, and was looking at a blank file directory! Thinking that perhaps the file was saved somewhere else besides the documentsFlight Simulator X Files directory, I did a search of the entire computer for *.RCD files....NADA...I do have three files with the name I saved under in the documentsFlight Simulator X Files directory.... .FLT, .FSSAVE and .WX

Recheck the setting in the keyboard assignments tab for RC to see what is assigned. In mine tthe default is ctrl-shift-; . Just ; itself would conflict with the FS assignment.

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Recheck the setting in the keyboard assignments tab for RC to see what is assigned. In mine tthe default is ctrl-shift-; . Just ; itself would conflict with the FS assignment.
Yep it's set to CTL-SHIFT-: But the tutorial on page 158 of the manual says press ";"... Might want to correct that for next release...
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be sure to click the .flt/.wx button, and defie the path where the .flt and .wx files are storedjd

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be sure to click the .flt/.wx button, and defie the path where the .flt and .wx files are storedjd
ok. I clicked on the .flt/.wx button and pointed it to my documents/Flight Simualtor X Files folder. Now when I press ctrl-shift-; I see that it is saving, but I get no opportunity to name the file. I looking in the directory now I see a .rcd file, named 321-51264-v4 2 KBNA-KMEM-1$1.rcd. I loaded the RCD file and it brought back everything as advertised. Only issue now is the naming of the file...
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i think this is covered in the extenisve manual. if not, it should be. if you want to name the .rcd, then click the ; key or click file save flight. either way, you name the flight, the .rcd file is called the same name as the .flrjd

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i think this is covered in the extenisve manual. if not, it should be. if you want to name the .rcd, then click the ; key or click file save flight. either way, you name the flight, the .rcd file is called the same name as the .flrjd
Thanks, it's working for me now. I just hit the ";" key to save in FSX give it a name, then hit ctrl-shift-; and it saves the rcd file with the same name as the saved file...

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