g3d.dll workaround/fix to prevent FSX crashes

[Abrupto 4]

As soon as I come home I will do the flight and post the crash info.And I do not understand what is the meaning of "those people" mencioned by Srdan Kostic . Can you please explain?RegardsAbrupto

Hi, this is the crash info:Nome do registo:ApplicationOrigem: Application ErrorData: 12-12-2011 19:30:25ID do evento: 1000Categoria de Tarefa:(100)Nível: ErroPalavras-chave:ClássicoUtilizador: N/DComputador: PMDGDescrição:Nome da aplicação com falha: fsx.exe, versão: 10.0.61637.0, carimbo de data/hora: 0x46fadb14Nome do módulo com falha: g3d.dll, versão: 10.0.61637.0, carimbo de data/hora: 0x46fadb58Código de excepção: 0xc0000005Desvio de falha: 0x0003f0b1ID do processo com falha: 0xd94Data/hora de início da aplicação com falha: 0x01ccb90011f790aaCaminho da aplicação com falha: C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator Xfsx.exeCaminho do módulo com falha: C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator Xg3d.dllID do Relatório: bcca1463-24f7-11e1-9ec8-f46d0499dee2Evento Xml:<Event xmlns="http://schemas.micro...08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="Application Error" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>100</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-12-12T19:30:25.000000000Z" /> <EventRecordID>11680</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>PMDG</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>fsx.exe</Data> <Data>10.0.61637.0</Data> <Data>46fadb14</Data> <Data>g3d.dll</Data> <Data>10.0.61637.0</Data> <Data>46fadb58</Data> <Data>c0000005</Data> <Data>0003f0b1</Data> <Data>d94</Data> <Data>01ccb90011f790aa</Data> <Data>C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator Xfsx.exe</Data> <Data>C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator Xg3d.dll</Data> <Data>bcca1463-24f7-11e1-9ec8-f46d0499dee2</Data> </EventData></Event>and this is FSUIPC log:********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.749f by Pete Dowson *********User Name="removed"User Addr="removed"FSUIPC4 Key is providedWIDEFS7 not user registered, or expiredRunning inside FSX on Windows 7Module base=61000000 702 System time = 12/12/2011 18:54:11 702 FLT path = "C:UsersHenriqueDocumentsFlight Simulator X Files" 4633 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 4633 FS path = "C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator X" 4930 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 4930 Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 4930 G3D.DLL fix attempt installed ok 4930 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 4930 Trying to use SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 12199 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 12199 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 12199 FSUIPC Menu entry added 12230 C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator XFLIGHTSOTHERFLTSIM.FLT 12230 C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator XSimObjectsAirplanesAircreation_582SLAircreation_582SL.AIR 33150 C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator XSimObjectsAirplanesPMDG 737-800NGX WLB737-800WL.AIR 107734 System time = 12/12/2011 18:55:58, Simulator time = 07:47:34 (07:47Z) 107828 Aircraft="Boeing 737-8ASNGX Ryanair Winglets" 109466 Starting everything now ... 109481 Using "C:Program Files (x86)GoFlightGFDEV.DLL", version 2.0.0.1 113007 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 136048 Weather Mode now = Custom 2571817 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 2467 secs = 26.7 fps 2578946 System time = 12/12/2011 19:30:25, Simulator time = 08:28:33 (08:28Z) 2578946 *** FSUIPC log file being closedAverage frame rate for running time of 2467 secs = 26.7 fpsG3D fix: Passes 43311, Null pointers 0, Bad pointers 0, Separate instances 0Memory managed: 1804 Allocs, 1804 Freed********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********

[Guest firehawk44]

I gave up chasing down the culprit. Uninstalled, reformatted and reinstalled FSX on my dedicated drive. Often times its just plain easier than looking for phantom errors or a corrupt dll. Been flying for 5 days now with no errors. I'm slowly injecting addons. I still havn,t installed UT2 but have been using GEX. I'm suspecting, with no basis of proof, a TCAS.dll was causing my errors and causing conflicts. Was missing from an addon aircraft I reinstalled and instantly recieved the g3d.dll, nt.dll and ATC.dll errors. Uninstalled the aircraft and its gone. Again, purely coincidence?

Perhaps this link will help regarding the tcas.dll crash: http://support.precisionmanuals.com/KB/a35/troubleshooting-ctds-crash-to-desktop.aspx.Best regards,Jim

[Guest jahman]

Hi, this is the crash info:Nome do registo:ApplicationOrigem: Application ErrorData: 12-12-2011 19:30:25ID do evento: 1000Categoria de Tarefa:(100)Nível: ErroPalavras-chave:ClássicoUtilizador: N/DComputador: PMDGDescrição:Nome da aplicação com falha: fsx.exe, versão: 10.0.61637.0, carimbo de data/hora: 0x46fadb14Nome do módulo com falha: g3d.dll, versão: 10.0.61637.0, carimbo de data/hora: 0x46fadb58Código de excepção: 0xc0000005Desvio de falha: 0x0003f0b1ID do processo com falha: 0xd94Data/hora de início da aplicação com falha: 0x01ccb90011f790aaCaminho da aplicação com falha: C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator Xfsx.exeCaminho do módulo com falha: C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator Xg3d.dllID do Relatório: bcca1463-24f7-11e1-9ec8-f46d0499dee2Evento Xml:...and this is FSUIPC log:********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.749f by Pete Dowson *********User Name=User Addr=FSUIPC4 Key is providedWIDEFS7 not user registered, or expiredRunning inside FSX on Windows 7Module base=61000000 702 System time = 12/12/2011 18:54:11 702 FLT path = "C:UsersHenriqueDocumentsFlight Simulator X Files" 4633 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 4633 FS path = "C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator X" 4930 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 4930 Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 4930 G3D.DLL fix attempt installed ok 4930 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 4930 Trying to use SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 12199 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 12199 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 12230 C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator XFLIGHTSOTHERFLTSIM.FLT 12230 C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator XSimObjectsAirplanesAircreation_582SLAircreation_582SL.AIR 33150 C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator XSimObjectsAirplanesPMDG 737-800NGX WLB737-800WL.AIR 107734 System time = 12/12/2011 18:55:58, Simulator time = 07:47:34 (07:47Z) 107828 Aircraft="Boeing 737-8ASNGX Ryanair Winglets" 109466 Starting everything now ... 109481 Using "C:Program Files (x86)GoFlightGFDEV.DLL", version 2.0.0.1 113007 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 136048 Weather Mode now = Custom 2571817 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 2467 secs = 26.7 fps 2578946 System time = 12/12/2011 19:30:25, Simulator time = 08:28:33 (08:28Z) 2578946 *** FSUIPC log file being closedAverage frame rate for running time of 2467 secs = 26.7 fpsG3D fix: Passes 43311, Null pointers 0, Bad pointers 0, Separate instances 0Memory managed: 1804 Allocs, 1804 Freed********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********

Relevant lines for PeteD bolded.

Perhaps this link will help regarding the tcas.dll crash: http://support.preci...to-desktop.aspx.Best regards,Jim

That was my next guess, but the crash dump infelizmente does indicate G3D.dll instead of TCAS.dll as the culprit.Cheers,- jahman.

[Guest firehawk44]

Relevant lines for PeteD bolded.That was my next guess, but the crash dump infelizmente does indicate G3D.dll instead of TCAS.dll as the culprit.Cheers,- jahman.

I saw that too but he mentioned the TCAS.dll so I thought I would help him on that one. Appears he has everything fixed now. Best regards,Jim

[Pete Dowson 558]

Nome do módulo com falha: g3d.dll, versão: 10.0.61637.0, carimbo de data/hora: 0x46fadb58Código de excepção: 0xc0000005Desvio de falha: 0x0003f0b1FSUIPC Log file closed ***********

This is a different crash to those the majority of folks were getting, and isn't fixed by any patch from FSUIPC. I've had a look and i'm afraid it isn't in any sort of place I could very easily effect an escape from. It's looks like it is right in the middle of building quite complex tables from input files -- actually it is very suggestive of a corrupt file being processed.Sorry, but I don't think I can really help with this one. You might be able to identify the culprit file by using ProcMon, and/or a process of elimination.RegardsPete

[Ben Cap 89]

And for those of you who are thinking of buying a licensed copy of FSUIPC but don't think you will use it much, that's what I thought. But I have found FSUIPC does SO MUCH more than I realized, I now consider it to be a necessary component of FSX.

Very true... The axis assigment and wind smoothing are killer features that are vital to a smooth and realistic flight experience.Thanks to Pete for his contributions

[Stick 0]

Why should I...? It doesn't offer anything I need, so... After all these years I still don't know why this is regarded as a must have for so many people. I guess it all depends on how you fly and what hardware you have...? ;) This fix would have been a reason to buy FSUIPC after all, but since I don't have appcrashes anyway, I still see no need to buy it.

/ / / / ........this guy has such a BAD attitude (whether on this topic, X-Plane, or AeroflyFS, or the other topics that I've had the misfortune to bump into him on. Always an expectant, harsh, abrupt, ego-centric attitude to everything. ...and it's not just about 'not digging' FSUIPC either, it's about the fact that this topic is about such a huge breakthrough and positive development for so many people, done by a guy (Pete) who will do anything he can to improve the hobby, not just for paying customers ............. and yet this guy above just has to get his negative vibe in.I really feel sorry for this guy, as it clearly can't be much fun living with that outlook.........I may be completely wrong here (and if I am fine, you can laugh at me), but is this guy an AVSIM Reviewer? (or maybe he used to be?) .......... if so, what a role model huh? if not, my bad. Edited February 22, 2012 by Stick

[SpiritFlyer 987]

/ / / / ........this guy has such a BAD attitude (whether on this topic, X-Plane, or AeroflyFS, or the other topics that I've had the misfortune to bump into him on. Always an expectant, harsh, abrupt, ego-centric attitude to everything.... I may be completely wrong here (and if I am fine, you can laugh at me), but is this guy an AVSIM Reviewer? (or maybe he used to be?) .......... if so, what a role model huh? if not, my bad.

Stick,That reads like a personal insult and attack that goes against the ToS of AVSIM. Besides, J van E has been a positive and helpful influence here for a lot longer than many, while exercising his right within the ToS to express his opinion, even when wrong. Not going after someone personally when disagreeing with their opinions is a better idea than ripping them apart.Kind regards,

[Andydigital 93]

On another topic, what is the point of a post voting system if you can only vote up, are mods and admins the only people who are allow to vote a post down? Whenever I try to vote a post down I get a message saying that I have used my negative quota for the day, pretty pointless system if this is not an error.

[steve howlett 137]

Stickthis is only my opinion on subjects like this and i'm not taking sides here.you have to remember that for a lot of people here english is not there First langauge.and for some including me sometimes it is very hard to convey emotion in a post.I look at posts like the ones you mentioned as being from people who are really passionate about there hobby FSX. :( steve-0

[SubLogical 1]

Whoa! If OrbX is the suspected cause of the crash has anybody asked them what they think of the solution to the problem? I've been a long time supporter of Pete but after I loaded my FSUICP to fix the OrbX (?) AppCrash, I had a PMDG 737 spin out of control on me for no reason on the next flight!

Shouldn't ORBX fix the problem if they're causing it? I've got money invested in both of those developers but it seems like this could develop into a great Ponzi scheme. Does MS even comment anymore?

 

Ken

[Kosta 122]

Ken, it's not only ORBX causing it.

We actually don't really know why is it happening. Only that it does and there is a workaround for it.

[Tomaz Drnovsek 440]

If OrbX is the suspected cause of the crash has anybody asked them what they think of the solution to the problem?

 

I asked them what they think of the fix and I got banned :)

It's not just ORBX scenery but the majority of this crashes was happening with their scenery just because it's one of the most demanding on the system. The real cause still remains a mystery but we can be very happy that Pete made this fix.

[Johnny767 40]

What Version do we need to purchase to fix CTD and for smoothing wind effects?

[Kosta 122]

You don't purchase a version. You purchase an FSUIPC in general. You should always use the latest version, available either over his website or his forum.