January 6, 201214 yr I'm in the same boat as you Howard, trying to decide what display(s) to get. I know basically what I want... a 3 display wraparound setup, 25-27" each, and LED. But I can't justify $3000 USD for two of those to be "side" displays which are really for immersion purposes only when in VC. I do plan to add a 2nd 580 card with 3GB to help take up some of the slack but even with my CPU at 5GHz I think trying to push too many pixels will just give an underwhelming experience. I think as I type I may just go for 1920x1080x3 as that will give my the best overall performance/cost ratio for what I seek.Sure, I think the worst scenario would be to invest gollops of cash and then find you've got a stuttering mess in front of you!! HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
January 11, 201214 yr Author Just an update guys, I finally opted for a Dell U2412M 1920x1200 16:10 IPS. Haven't yet tested FSX but I can say first impression is very positive compared to my previous Samsung 226BW which I enjoyed anyway.I had to decide between a wider 27 inch 16:9 Dell U2711 and the 24 Dell U2412M. In the end I wasn't sure about going to 2500 x 1600 native resolution, I believe 1900 is enough and I did not want to be penalised by a few frame rates based on what you are saying in the forum. Am aware you can use less antialising but if using FSX application understand you just have one setting. I worked out a calculation to compare a 27 inch 16:9 to a 24 inch 16:10 and basically the main difference is the screen is wider (left to right) by 8 cm but in term of height (top to bottom) they are nearly the same.I think both options are perfectly fine however, I just felt that was the best for me, in the end I can always put the screen 2 cm closer to my face to obtain the same effect (don't need a thousand inch screen to be watched from 300 meters away!)Cheersm. CPU: i7-2600K @ 4.4 GHz, MB: ASUS 1155 P8P67 PRO Rev.3.1, RAM: 16GB 1600MHz GSkill Ripjaws X CL7-8-7-24 GPU: MSI Ventus RTX2070, Case: Cooler Master CM-690 II Advanced Dominator, PSU: Antec Truepower Quattro 750W OS: Win 10 Professional, Cooling: Noctua NH-D14 (+custom fans: Noctua NF-P12 PWM+Thermalright TR TY 140 PWM) Monitor: MSI Optix MAG341CQ
January 13, 201214 yr Just an update guys, I finally opted for a Dell U2412M 1920x1200 16:10 IPS. Me too. I've had it for a while now and once you change its default coloration away from blue tones it's excellent in all ways. I've ended up moving the screen away from my eyes a few more inches, and that starts negating benefits of having a larger display. When the display is the same distance as my old Dell US screen it just displays more pixelation simply because I'm so close relative to the size of the screen. I think were I to reconsider I would not bother increasing the display size. I think it's an overrated move personally when it comes to single displays. My spouse needed a new screen so I gave her my 'old' 1680 x 1050. I may retry it again. The larger screen clearly has a significant albeit smallish perf impact on my now getting dated system. Were I to rethink this I think going to multiply smaller displays is much more meaningful. 3 x 1680x1050 could be killer, but my system couldn't handle it. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
January 13, 201214 yr Author Hi Noel,happy you got to my same conclusions.By the way, I was extremely pleased with the U2412M settings out of the box. I couldn't notice any blue shift but maybe I don't have eyes that sensitive. Wonder what calibration did you apply as I tried some calibration file found on tftcentral (http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles.htm) but wasnt satisfied so reverted back to the default and just lowered brightness to 50%.Regardsm. Me too. I've had it for a while now and once you change its default coloration away from blue tones it's excellent in all ways. I've ended up moving the screen away from my eyes a few more inches, and that starts negating benefits of having a larger display. When the display is the same distance as my old Dell US screen it just displays more pixelation simply because I'm so close relative to the size of the screen. I think were I to reconsider I would not bother increasing the display size. I think it's an overrated move personally when it comes to single displays. My spouse needed a new screen so I gave her my 'old' 1680 x 1050. I may retry it again. The larger screen clearly has a significant albeit smallish perf impact on my now getting dated system. Were I to rethink this I think going to multiply smaller displays is much more meaningful. 3 x 1680x1050 could be killer, but my system couldn't handle it. CPU: i7-2600K @ 4.4 GHz, MB: ASUS 1155 P8P67 PRO Rev.3.1, RAM: 16GB 1600MHz GSkill Ripjaws X CL7-8-7-24 GPU: MSI Ventus RTX2070, Case: Cooler Master CM-690 II Advanced Dominator, PSU: Antec Truepower Quattro 750W OS: Win 10 Professional, Cooling: Noctua NH-D14 (+custom fans: Noctua NF-P12 PWM+Thermalright TR TY 140 PWM) Monitor: MSI Optix MAG341CQ
January 13, 201214 yr Absolutely, you get a larger screen with the same pixel size, then you have to move it away from you because you see the pixels! Then it effectively becomes the same visual size as the other monitor, larger but further away! So, you could up the pixels and then get hit with fewer frames... it's a real catch 22! HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
January 20, 201214 yr Anybody had any experience with 120hz monitors?Cheers,MarkHave one arriving on Monday, I'll let you know.
April 16, 201214 yr Hi, i also want to buy a new monitor for FSX. I am thinking about the Dell ultrasharp U2412M but the question is this. The aspect ratio of this monitor is 16:10 instead of the 16:9 i am using now. Is that a problem for FSX, i fly the Pmdg MD 11 in 2D panel ? My Gpu is Nvidia Gtx 285, will this card support this monitor? Thanx for any advice. Ed
April 16, 201214 yr I have a rickety old Core 2 Duo (OC to 3.2ghz) with the GTX 8800. I bought it the month of FSX release. (I have not been simming the last two years. I pretty much gave up on FSX. Tsk Tsk) Only now I am trying get back on and waiting to build a new PC. I can only fly around Princess Julliana or other remote areas without it giving me grief. But just to get back on the horse so to speak, I have been messing around with my old PC and focusing on the cockpit project. I love my 2 X 24" dell 1920 X 1200 Monitors. The full PMDG aircraft panel on the wide setup is just awesome! I went from one 24" and one 19" Touch screen ELO monitor to just two 24". I luv it. The immersion is awesome. I am looking forward to go 3 X 24" with my new IB build. I did not see performance (FPS) hit going to 2 X 24". However, I saw the limit of my video card. Thats why I am looking forward to the new 6xx with oodles of video memory for my 3 or even 4 monitor setup. I am beggining to believe the larger front view setup has to do with how much video memory and other aspects of of your video card. (But don't quote me on this). Think about this..even if you have only one monitor and if you use your hat switch, aren't you able to go from one front view to side views? Hasn't your PC processed all those images already? How long did it take for your "one monitor" take to display the views from the sides? The PC no matter how many monitors you have still processes the details around your location. ITs only a matter of displaying them. You can get a used 24" dell (2405) for $200 bucks on e-bay. I paid around $215 for my 24" second monitor...the first, I paid $1200 a long while ago. Manny Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
September 21, 201411 yr Hi Folks, So I am down to 2 choices ASUS 24" VG248QE (no IPS but 1ms refresh time) or the 27" MX279H which is IPS (5 ms refresh rate) and 27". Will I really notice the difference in refresh rate 1 vs. 5 in FSX? My limitation is real estate my play area (cabinet area) is limited 25" wide x 19" high so I am very limited to my size of monitors. Anything bigger dimensions the screen will have to be brought out of the monitor area which will be only about 15" from my eyes, not good. Any thoughts on either of those monitors or any others just as good. Thanks. Forms haw.
September 22, 201411 yr IPS will give better colour and black levels than a TN monitor will. response time between 5ms and 1ms will make zero difference in fsx Glenn Ryzen 3700X, X570 Pro Wifi, 32GB 3600mhz RAM, Nvidia Titan Xp "Galactic Empire", RM750x PSU, H700 case, 2x NVMe M2 SSD, 1x SATA SSD
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September 24, 201411 yr What about the new GTX 770Nvidia card? I have a 23" SAMSUNG....would that help with the immersion ?>\
September 24, 201411 yr You actually want a Nvidia GTX 970 or 980 card that just came out, not the GTX 770.
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