Hey, fallows,i was wondering how the pilots sending the flight plan to the traffic control, i mean at vatim we are just filling it and sending to the atc, how that's work on the real world?,2. is there any program/web that i can go into and check the temperature for certain FL? else how can i know the temperature?thanks for any help, kind regards.

1. Don't know for sure.2. Have a look at baseops. In the menu choose "wind" and then choose one of the "Wind/Temp" charts.Kasper Petersen

Edited January 6, 201214 yr by Kasper

Hallo Daniel,In Europe all pilots flying VFR from one country into the next (expect some local rules eg. Austria-Germany: No flight plan needed, however allway recomended due to safety.) have to submit a flight plan. Every pilot flying IFR has to fille one. For the airline pilots normaly the dispatchers fill them. They must be sent to the Air Traffic Controll zentrum in Bruessels 1 hr before departure I think (maybe more, I will have to check that). There they check the flight plan and routes so they can dispatch the traffic a little bit better.In former times such formulars were used. Today the formulars look the same, however 99% of them are filled online in the web browser. However they can also be filled on the paper and you can use a fax machine to send them to your AIS (Aeronatuical Information Service here in Austria) and then they will do the rest for you. If you are somewhere where you aren't able to find a fax machine or internet (most commonly in Italy on some small airfields) you can even call them and tell them all the data.In Bruessels they check the data and then they transmit them to the ATCs which will have the plane on the screen.So when I get airborne VFR somewhere, let's say Innsbruck, I ask the tower (if he doesn't do it by himself) if he could open my flight plan. When the flightplan is opened within a half hour wich you have filled it will get valid (else it will be closed, if you don't announce a delay). When you land they will close the flightplan. When you don't arrive at a certain time after the time you filled they will start to worry about you (expect you have announced a delay). They will make some phone calls and they look if they find you. When the time since takeoff is higher than your endurance they will start to bother very much. Normaly now they will make even more phone calls, and here in Austria they will get an helicopter in the air to fly the same route as you filled to search for you. When they find your plane crashed somewhere this maybe will save your life. If you have done a landing because bad weder and you didn't announce it you will a have a huge problem, because someone has to pay for the hellicopter and so on.In IFR it is very simmilar, however you don't have to bother if the tower opens and closes your flightplan, because they will do, because they do it with every airliner they clear for takeoff.Jonathan

Disclaimer - I can only speak for the way things happen here in the States.In the real world, you file your flight plan either through an approved web source (DUATS as an example), or through the flight service station. If you choose VFR, it stays at the FSS for flight following reasons and ATC never sees it (a lot of RW pilots don't get that and are always confused why ATC doesn't have their VFR plan and info when they call them for flight following). If you choose IFR, the plan gets routed to the appropriate air traffic facilities for your route of flight, and is printed off as a flight strip (except for some facilities that use computer-based strips) for the controllers handling the flight. In the past, they'd get passed around some, but now they just get duplicated for each controller at some facilities because of the facility size (you'd have to start throwing flight strips across the room).As a side note, if anyone here is wondering why you see things like COLNS J6 HVQ J6 LIT BYP5, it's because it's how the route gets entered in the system in order to get routed properly. HVQ is the first waypoint on J6 within the next ARTCC (Center) from the point of departure. Its easy for the system to determine the departure ARTCC (ZDC in this case), but in order for the system to pick up on the flight going through Indianapolis' ARTCC, they break up the J6 route to show HVQ. This is not how it should be entered in the FMC, however (as many have found out with the NGX).

Edited January 6, 201214 yr by scandinavian13

Disclaimer - I can only speak for the way things happen here in the States.In the real world, you file your flight plan either through an approved web source (DUATS as an example), or through the flight service station. If you choose VFR, it stays at the FSS for flight following reasons and ATC never sees it (a lot of RW pilots don't get that and are always confused why ATC doesn't have their VFR plan and info when they call them for flight following). If you choose IFR, the plan gets routed to the appropriate air traffic facilities for your route of flight, and is printed off as a flight strip (except for some facilities that use computer-based strips) for the controllers handling the flight. In the past, they'd get passed around some, but now they just get duplicated for each controller at some facilities because of the facility size (you'd have to start throwing flight strips across the room).As a side note, if anyone here is wondering why you see things like COLNS J6 HVQ J6 LIT BYP5, it's because it's how the route gets entered in the system in order to get routed properly. HVQ is the first waypoint on J6 within the next ARTCC (Center) from the point of departure. Its easy for the system to determine the departure ARTCC (ZDC in this case), but in order for the system to pick up on the flight going through Indianapolis' ARTCC, they break up the J6 route to show HVQ. This is not how it should be entered in the FMC, however (as many have found out with the NGX).

I don't post around here much, but very well written, from one controller to another. (Seems like you are)

Hallo Daniel,In Europe all pilots flying VFR from one country into the next (expect some local rules eg. Austria-Germany: No flight plan needed, however allway recomended due to safety.) have to submit a flight plan. Every pilot flying IFR has to fille one. For the airline pilots normaly the dispatchers fill them. They must be sent to the Air Traffic Controll zentrum in Bruessels 1 hr before departure I think (maybe more, I will have to check that). There they check the flight plan and routes so they can dispatch the traffic a little bit better.In former times such formulars were used. Today the formulars look the same, however 99% of them are filled online in the web browser. However they can also be filled on the paper and you can use a fax machine to send them to your AIS (Aeronatuical Information Service here in Austria) and then they will do the rest for you. If you are somewhere where you aren't able to find a fax machine or internet (most commonly in Italy on some small airfields) you can even call them and tell them all the data.In Bruessels they check the data and then they transmit them to the ATCs which will have the plane on the screen.So when I get airborne VFR somewhere, let's say Innsbruck, I ask the tower (if he doesn't do it by himself) if he could open my flight plan. When the flightplan is opened within a half hour wich you have filled it will get valid (else it will be closed, if you don't announce a delay). When you land they will close the flightplan. When you don't arrive at a certain time after the time you filled they will start to worry about you (expect you have announced a delay). They will make some phone calls and they look if they find you. When the time since takeoff is higher than your endurance they will start to bother very much. Normaly now they will make even more phone calls, and here in Austria they will get an helicopter in the air to fly the same route as you filled to search for you. When they find your plane crashed somewhere this maybe will save your life. If you have done a landing because bad weder and you didn't announce it you will a have a huge problem, because someone has to pay for the hellicopter and so on.In IFR it is very simmilar, however you don't have to bother if the tower opens and closes your flightplan, because they will do, because they do it with every airliner they clear for takeoff.Jonathan

my god!!!! you know your stuff, I enjoyed much reading this.it was interesting I must say.

Disclaimer - I can only speak for the way things happen here in the States.In the real world, you file your flight plan either through an approved web source (DUATS as an example), or through the flight service station. If you choose VFR, it stays at the FSS for flight following reasons and ATC never sees it (a lot of RW pilots don't get that and are always confused why ATC doesn't have their VFR plan and info when they call them for flight following). If you choose IFR, the plan gets routed to the appropriate air traffic facilities for your route of flight, and is printed off as a flight strip (except for some facilities that use computer-based strips) for the controllers handling the flight. In the past, they'd get passed around some, but now they just get duplicated for each controller at some facilities because of the facility size (you'd have to start throwing flight strips across the room).As a side note, if anyone here is wondering why you see things like COLNS J6 HVQ J6 LIT BYP5, it's because it's how the route gets entered in the system in order to get routed properly. HVQ is the first waypoint on J6 within the next ARTCC (Center) from the point of departure. Its easy for the system to determine the departure ARTCC (ZDC in this case), but in order for the system to pick up on the flight going through Indianapolis' ARTCC, they break up the J6 route to show HVQ. This is not how it should be entered in the FMC, however (as many have found out with the NGX).

Same as above!!!

Edited January 6, 201214 yr by Akila

thank you all(:

if your flying in the US, you can use this http://www.aviationweather.gov/products/nws/winds/

thank you, but i am not flying at the US that much, there's no ATC online when i am a wake but, i am flying here at the UK is there any web for UK?

Hallo Daniel,In Europe all pilots flying VFR from one country into the next (expect some local rules eg. Austria-Germany: No flight plan needed, however allway recomended due to safety.) have to submit a flight plan. Every pilot flying IFR has to fille one. For the airline pilots normaly the dispatchers fill them. They must be sent to the Air Traffic Controll zentrum in Bruessels 1 hr before departure I think (maybe more, I will have to check that). There they check the flight plan and routes so they can dispatch the traffic a little bit better.In former times such formulars were used. Today the formulars look the same, however 99% of them are filled online in the web browser. However they can also be filled on the paper and you can use a fax machine to send them to your AIS (Aeronatuical Information Service here in Austria) and then they will do the rest for you. If you are somewhere where you aren't able to find a fax machine or internet (most commonly in Italy on some small airfields) you can even call them and tell them all the data.In Bruessels they check the data and then they transmit them to the ATCs which will have the plane on the screen.So when I get airborne VFR somewhere, let's say Innsbruck, I ask the tower (if he doesn't do it by himself) if he could open my flight plan. When the flightplan is opened within a half hour wich you have filled it will get valid (else it will be closed, if you don't announce a delay). When you land they will close the flightplan. When you don't arrive at a certain time after the time you filled they will start to worry about you (expect you have announced a delay). They will make some phone calls and they look if they find you. When the time since takeoff is higher than your endurance they will start to bother very much. Normaly now they will make even more phone calls, and here in Austria they will get an helicopter in the air to fly the same route as you filled to search for you. When they find your plane crashed somewhere this maybe will save your life. If you have done a landing because bad weder and you didn't announce it you will a have a huge problem, because someone has to pay for the hellicopter and so on.In IFR it is very simmilar, however you don't have to bother if the tower opens and closes your flightplan, because they will do, because they do it with every airliner they clear for takeoff.Jonathan

So sadly true... :(

thank you, but i am not flying at the US that much, there's no ATC online when i am a wake but, i am flying here at the UK is there any web for UK?

simple google searchfirst link - http://euro.wx.propilots.net/second link - http://www.activitae.com/airbase/europeWind.htm

Edited January 7, 201214 yr by flyguy172