Virgin 697 almost ran out of fuel

[Guest IAF747]

Airliner's mid-air drama revealedGEOFFREY THOMAS AVIATION EDITOR, The West AustralianUpdated January 24, 2012, 2:50 am

• : Listen to the air traffic control recording

The pilots of a Virgin passenger airliner dangerously low on fuel considered landing at Rottnest Island or Jandakot after freak high winds forced them to abort a landing at Perth Airport.The air drama, captured on audio transcript of conversations between Virgin Flight 697 and air traffic control obtained from Aviationadvertising.com, shows the 167-seat Boeing 737 was minutes from running out of fuel as pilots struggled to land the jet because of severe turbulence and cross winds at Perth Airport on January 3.On his second approach to land that evening, the captain was asked by air traffic control of his intentions if unsuccessful.He replied: "Er, we have to get on the ground on this approach."Virgin Australia Flight 697 from Melbourne had been circling, unable to land, for at least 45 minutes.Airservices Australia said pilots of many planes were forced to abort landing attempts that day because winds rolling off the hills from the east-south-east were gusting up to 158km/h just 80m above the ground and 60km/h on the runway.Some planes were diverted to Geraldton.Air traffic controllers offered the Virgin pilots Gingin, Pearce, Jandakot or Rottnest as options, because their runways were better aligned to the wind direction.Because of the severe cross-winds, well above plane's design tolerance for landing, the main long Runway 21 was closed and planes were forced to use the much shorter Runway 06 for landing.Strong winds also caused severe turbulence, making it difficult to get the plane stable for landing.The freak conditions slowed the landing process, requiring controllers to put planes into long holding patterns, burning up fuel.Planes burn considerably more fuel at lower altitudes and in holding patterns.A Virgin Australia spokesman said that on arrival in Perth, Flight 697 had sufficient fuel to reach an alternate airport, although fuel to reach an alternative destination was not required to meet the regulatory requirement."However, the crew made the decision that the weather in Perth was not sufficiently adverse to warrant a diversion," he said."An extended holding period, due to traffic congestion caused by the weather, subsequently resulted in a circumstance where the crew was committed to landing at Perth."The aircraft was scheduled to arrive at 9.40pm and landed at 10.27pm."There's also an east-west runway at Rottnest Island but it's pretty short as well," the controller says in the transcript."Yeah copied that, we had a look at Pearce, it's got about 1600m," the captain says.During this period there were at least six other aborted landings by other planes.Typically, planes must carry additional fuel to cover stronger than forecast headwinds, plus as holding fuel for about 45 minutes.http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/12699561/airliner-s-mid-air-drama-revealed/

Edited January 24, 2012 by IAF747

[Matthew Kane]

We have had some crazy weather in Australia and New Zealand lately. Glad he made it down safe.

[boeing247]

I always wondered why things like this don't happen due to holding patterns... apparently they do.

[Clem Wu]

Thanks for sharing this. Glad they made it down safe as well :)

[Guest IAF747]

I live in Perth. You should visit one day, fly in from Sydney or anywhere on the East Coast. The hills here are like Hong Kong CLK (VHHH), causing wind shear, excellent (fun for me!) turbulence and generally a challenge.I was in a 777-300 years ago on the flightdeck (CPA) and there was a distinct change in wind layer when descending on finals to 07L, and only then do you notice how powerful the Trent 800s are. I have not been on a newer 777-300 yet with the GE90B-115s.But generally we take it for granted that a big jet when arriving at their destination only has about 5000kg of juice in the tanks.Did anyone listen to the ATC audio?Daniel

[Guest pow0011]

You should check it out on WebTrak.http://webtrak.bksv.com/per

[Clem Wu]

I listened to the audio :D Very interesting. Poor controller was quite busy :(

[Guest pow0011]

Got him on WebTrak, says he got down to at least 72ft before doing a go-around.

[NZ255]

I assume he landed on the second attempt?

[738]

Should have used v-route for fuel planning i always end up with lots of reserve..All joking aside im glad they got down safely.

[Captain_Barfbag]

In 1990, Avianca flight 52 ran out of fuel and went down outside of JFK in New York. They had been in a holding pattern for over an hour, and burned up all their fuel reserve. As I recall, they did not declare a fuel emergency and the urgency of their situation was not recognized by the tower.

[SpiritFlyer]

Is there any video of this near incident? It is quite compelling since that final landing was do or die.Kind regards,

[Guest IAF747]

In 1990, Avianca flight 52 ran out of fuel and went down outside of JFK in New York. They had been in a holding pattern for over an hour, and burned up all their fuel reserve. As I recall, they did not declare a fuel emergency and the urgency of their situation was not recognized by the tower.

Correct, a 707 I think. It was on Mayday/Air Crash Investigation.Daniel

Is there any video of this near incident? It is quite compelling since that final landing was do or die.Kind regards,

Stephen this was at 10pm at night.Daniel

[Airbus Commander]

Have to say, never been in a situation that tight before, but fair play to the crew for keeping their calm...

[mgh]

In 1990, Avianca flight 52 ran out of fuel and went down outside of JFK in New York. They had been in a holding pattern for over an hour, and burned up all their fuel reserve. As I recall, they did not declare a fuel emergency and the urgency of their situation was not recognized by the tower.

The Captain told the First Officer to declare an emergency, but the First Officer didn't use the word "emergency" in speaking to ATC so it's not surprising that ATC didn't recognise it.