Found this by accident searching for something else. It does reflect the type of crowd to some degree. Landing from outside the plane. Not that is somewhat of a challenge LOL. Not a joystick in sight!http://www.geekwire.com/2012/hands-microsoft-flight-blast-mere-game/Bob

I had fun with it for a day. The new wore off really fast, but it was worth downloading and experiencing.

I had fun with it for a day. The new wore off really fast, but it was worth downloading and experiencing.

My association was much shorter than yours.Bob

Yep, liked it too

Admitted, I was looking for a flying mouse!Better than flying pigs for sure, or..?What´s happening to this fine hobby, or am I going "Walden/Thoreau" backwards here on my island?Crazy world... :rolleyes:BTW, why don´t MS advertise Flight as an RC Game instead? It´s all there, outside view, no VC, and you just grab a mouse and make it fly!

BTW, why don´t MS advertise Flight as an RC Game instead? It´s all there, outside view, no VC, and you just grab a mouse and make it fly!

Just for clarification purposes:There are currently more airplanes with VC's than exterior only models in Flight. I certainly hope that continues to be the case as it moves forward, we will see.And there are working instruments in the cockpits, radios, vor's, ignition switch, fuel pump switches, batteries, etc. One can make a pretty intense IFR landing in very dense fog. One can also choose to fly with a checklist for the particular aircraft the are flying... it is interactive and not bad really.While yes Flight is tailored also to bring new folks into the sport - make it simple with all aides on and fly with the mouse to get started, it does have some at least simulator aspects to it. No, it is not FSX and should not be compared, as they are two very different products that do different things.Bringing in new blood though, is not a bad thing. Some folks who may very well, get their interest perked enough to check out a more serious sim such as FSX. In fact I have seen more than a couple so far that have done so. After all, we all had to start somewhere. I remember when I first got into flight simming, all those years ago. The first time I got a version of MSFS, can't remember which it was, I was so overwhelmed I just shelved it.

Actually there have been some sims where flying with a mouse was great, Hellcats, on an Apple Mac way back in the early nineties was excellent when flown with a mouse. Chuck Yeager's Air Combat was also good with a mouse.Al

Is it ok to speak on MS Flight in here?Without having your post deleted, because AVSIM wants to keep good standings with theMS Flight devs and they read these forums and blunt honest feedback not in MS Flight's favor is simply isn't allowed????

Admitted, I was looking for a flying mouse!Better than flying pigs for sure, or..?What´s happening to this fine hobby, or am I going "Walden/Thoreau" backwards here on my island?Crazy world... :rolleyes:BTW, why don´t MS advertise Flight as an RC Game instead? It´s all there, outside view, no VC, and you just grab a mouse and make it fly!

To imitate RC planes you would need a way to increase the simulation rate in order to replicate that. Not sure if Flight offers that.Bob

Is it ok to speak on MS Flight in here?Without having your post deleted, because AVSIM wants to keep good standings with theMS Flight devs and they read these forums and blunt honest feedback not in MS Flight's favor is simply isn't allowed????

That's simply not true about Avsim filtering unfavourable critical opinions about Flight, what the moderators are/were doing is tackling rude or uneccesarily agressive comments on the forums, and there were a lot of those concerning Flight, so there were a disproportionate number of threads removed from the Flight forum because of that behaviour.But the moderators will do that in any forum if similar behaviour is displayed. You are free to voice your opinions on Avsim, with the caveat that you should remain courteous and stay within the forum's guidelines, most of which are simply a case of common sense and propriety. Having said that, this is the FSX forum, so the main thrust of any thread in here should largely relate to FSX in some way, although that does not mean that you cannot mention Flight at all, as long as the comments about it are relevant to the discussion at hand. Otherwise, there is a Flight forum, which may be a better choice for something specifically related to Flight.However, partisan, overtly 'bashing' threads, or ones which involve personal attacks will almost certainly not be tolerated, and that goes for any forum on Avsim, as indeed it should, so if you dislike something about Flight or want to suggest an improvement, state it in a civil way and there will be no problem. If you look on the Flight forums, you will see that you can be critical of aspects about Flight so long as you remain polite and your comments have merit. MS developers do read the Avsim Flight forum, so in addition to it simply being good manners to remain courteous, threads of that nature are far more likely to elicit a positive appraisal by those in a position to act upon them, although you should note that the MS Flight development team have stated their position in regard to what its focus will be, so issuing even polite requests for PMDG-style airliners and things of that nature, are fairly likely to be rejected.Al

That's simply not true about Avsim filtering unfavourable critical opinions about Flight, what the moderators are/were doing is tackling rude or uneccesarily agressive comments on the forums, and there were a lot of those concerning Flight, so there were a disproportionate number of threads removed from the Flight forum because of that behaviour.But the moderators will do that in any forum if similar behaviour is displayed. You are free to voice your opinions on Avsim, with the caveat that you should remain courteous and stay within the forum's guidelines, most of which are simply a case of common sense and propriety. Having said that, this is the FSX forum, so the main thrust of any thread in here should largely relate to FSX in some way, although that does not mean that you cannot mention Flight at all, as long as the comments about it are relevant to the discussion at hand. Otherwise, there is a Flight forum, which may be a better choice for something specifically related to Flight.However, partisan, overtly 'bashing' threads, or ones which involve personal attacks will almost certainly not be tolerated, and that goes for any forum on Avsim, as indeed it should, so if you dislike something about Flight or want to suggest an improvement, state it in a civil way and there will be no problem. If you look on the Flight forums, you will see that you can be critical of aspects about Flight so long as you remain polite and your comments have merit. MS developers do read the Avsim Flight forum, so in addition to it simply being good manners to remain courteous, threads of that nature are far more likely to elicit a positive appraisal by those in a position to act upon them, although you should note that the MS Flight development team have stated their position in regard to what its focus will be, so issuing even polite requests for PMDG-style airliners and things of that nature, are fairly likely to be rejected.Al

I've written a very thorough review of MS Flight during release and it was deleted by an admin having a mood swing. He did apologize via PM admitting he was extremely biased and was having a rough day.His excuse was my unbiased honest review was just too harsh and critical of MS Flight and it was too early for that kind of review since the game had "just" released and they did not want to damagerelations with MS Flight devs.I in no way bashed MS Flight, or stated anything immature and childish.After that I stayed out of the MS Flight section since it was fact that some certain mods and admin there are indeed biased in favor of MS Flight and will not tolerate a pure honest opinion.Even though this mod did admit to his mistake and apologize, that's still pretty shaky ground when it comes to one with such authorities judgement.Biased MS Flight ###### do not deserve to be given authorities as mods or admin, so I decided it was best to stay out of MS Flight section if I didn't like what I was seeing.Besides the game was not worth keeping on the hard drive.Its all good people are people.

I've written a very thorough review of MS Flight during release and it was deleted by an admin having a mood swing. He did apologize via PM admitting he was extremely biased and was having a rough day.His excuse was my unbiased honest review was just too harsh and critical of MS Flight and it was too early for that kind of review since the game had "just" released and they did not want to damagerelations with MS Flight devs.I in no way bashed MS Flight, or stated anything immature and childish.After that I stayed out of the MS Flight section since it was fact that some certain mods and admin there are indeed biased in favor of MS Flight and will not tolerate a pure honest opinion.Even though this mod did admit to his mistake and apologize, that's still pretty shaky ground when it comes to one with such authorities judgement.Biased MS Flight ###### do not deserve to be given authorities as mods or admin, so I decided it was best to stay out of MS Flight section if I didn't like what I was seeing.Besides the game was not worth keeping on the hard drive.Its all good people are people.

I try to avoid that forum. I don't don't use Flight so can't justify giving that forum much thought. Sorry that happened to you.

Unfortunately, mods can get out of the wrong side of the bed on the odd day, just like the rest of us, not an excuse for a questionable decision of course, but nevertheless something that can happen.I have to say that I don't always agree with every decision I see moderators take, but I suspect I would be no different in that regard were I to take on that job, thus I still respect the moderators, as it is usually a pretty thankless task when a moderator's presence on the forums is generally going to be associated with the less pleasant side of things.The moderator's role, and the level of appreciation which they unfortunately don't always get for that thankless task, reminds me of a quote from the film The Hard Way, where cop James Woods is talking about the lack of appreciation which cops get: 'Yeah, I understand. Sure. Cops are too angry, too violent... too risky to care about... until you need one. Then we're the Second Coming, aren't we? I understand that one alright.'Al

Thankfully Flight is free, so anyone can download it and see what kind of game it really is, no matter what kind of overly positive picture is forced in certain forums. But yeah, in Flight forum you usually need to be careful and soften your post instead of telling exactly what you think, if that is really negative.