http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/New_Pilot_Rules_EASA_206492-1.html

 

 

New rules for foreign pilots and foreign registered aircraft in Europe came into effect on Saturday and, depending on how member states of the European Union are implementing them, could mean that your FAA, Transport Canada or other pilot certificate or ratings are no longer recognized by the European Aviation Safety Agency. EASA Part FCL homogenizes crew licensing requirements in all EU states and essentially means that those who want to fly in the EU have to prove competence and compliance with EU rules, rather than just use the credentials of their home country. Depending on the kind of flying involved, it can be a time-consuming and costly endeavor to earn those flight privileges, particularly for IFR.

In an editorial, German magazine Pilot und Flugzeug Editor Jan Brill says the new rule ignores acceptance of European qualifications in other GA nations and makes it costly and inconvenient for those licensed elsewhere to fly in Europe. "We insult our aviation-friends all over the world by rendering their certificates worthless, we repay the openness extended by nations such as Canada, Australia or the United States by pettiness and arrogance," Brill wrote. "To anyone who knows how to fly an aircraft, we‘re presenting Europe at it‘s very, very worst." Although the new rules theoretically took effect on April 8, some countries have implemented a two-year grace period.

I highly doubt this will stay around.

I wouldn't mind betting it does, the European Union is a haven for overly beaurocratic nonsense and I can pretty much guarantee they will demand people get a night rating.

 

Al

I wouldn't mind betting it does, the European Union is a haven for overly beaurocratic nonsense and I can pretty much guarantee they will demand people get a night rating.

 

Al

 

Yes and charge a big hefty fee on top of that.

 

And to the OP. Please don't use such large fonts next time. :Nerd:

FAA ratings have never been "fully" recognised in the UK!

vololiberista

That's true, but it was a fairly easy conversion. If not, all those ads in UK pilot mags for Florida flying schools doing PPLs would not be there LOL

 

Al

(adopts stuffy British Army Colonel accent) 'If they start letting these bally colonials into the Royal Aero Club, I shall have to pen a strongly-worded letter to The Times!'

 

Al

(adopts stuffy British Army Colonel accent) 'If they start letting these bally colonials into the Royal Aero Club, I shall have to pen a strongly-worded letter to The Times!'

 

Al

 

Ahhhh! So "Disgusted from Tunbridge Wells" It's you! I always wondered who it was! :-)

vololiberista

(adopts stuffy British Army Colonel accent) 'If they start letting these bally colonials into the Royal Aero Club, I shall have to pen a strongly-worded letter to The Times!'

 

Al

:LMAO:

..though more likely to be a stuffy retired Air Commodore maybe?

Guess some breaucrat wants job security with requirements. EU elite must not like country bumpkin pilots spending money on food, lodging, entertainment :)

http://www.avweb.com...A_206492-1.html

 

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Tragic.

Can't see why they did it (I can't think of a single practical reason for doing this) - maybe its a political decision, brought on by disagreements over the EU's Airlines emissions tax scheme.

 

General Aviation in Europe consists mainly of small sized enterprises or not-for-profit organisations - which have limited resources to keep up with the ongoing regulatory changes coming from the EU. Even the big airlines are having a hard time of it. On top of all the other challenges, the bureaucracy is really damaging. Things keep going like this and in the future there won't be much GA in Europe.

What affect does this have on all the commercial pilots for the airlines have? If their certificates aren't recognized, how are the airlines going to be able to fly to Europe? Or does this just affect GA Pilots?

Think it affects only GA flight in Europe. Although I can't be completely sure as the actual EU document: http://www.easa.europa.eu/rulemaking/docs/npa/2008/NPA%202008-17b.pdf

 

(as any EU legal document) is an atrocious pain to read and understand fully.

Don't think it puts any restrictions on Airliner operations and pilots (as long as they are flying for the airline, while they are over Europe). But from what I gather even a fully qualified airliner pilot (who got his qualifications outside the EU) will not be allowed to fly GA in Europe unless he/she goes though all the new EU tests and qualifications BS (and there is a lot of it that they would have to go through). Seems kind of silly considering they will be allowing the same pilots to fly in Europe for the big airlines without having to go through all that.

 

It all sounds ridiculous and I can only hope it doesn't stay around.