I don't know about you, but I found it boring.

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Nobody buys the same watch, even though they need to keep track of time. Same for this. Some will try my idea...find it a blast, or a good once-in-a-while diversion. Some will try it, find it not for them, and move on. That's life. :)

I haven't checked it yet, but I could imagine that some PeopleFlow folks are already fishing in FSX. Not? KCMW sea plane base?

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You are a starting to think about the possibilities and think in the 'outside-the-box' extension mode. Good for you, Cool. You don't think that some from Orbx have been following my two 'marine based' threads in the 'guest mode'? I think they have...and can see true marine applications for; yes.....allowing one to fly into their airports, 'bob' down to the dock with peopleflow and perhaps new marineflow (hey...look at the ideas I am giving them for no compensation, lol!) where peopleflow are talking, getting into and out of boats, and boats coming into, and out of the marinas. Heck.....why NOT? They have gone to the trouble of making such great (and I certainly compliment and THANK THEM for them) marinas and dock objects...why not have this activity happening at the dock and upon the lake as you fly your approach and/or take off? Why....NOT? Talk about the next 'level' for letting users/customers feel even more, that they are doing a real-world, and logical activity. Before I started my own 'marine adventures'....I quite frankly felt the scene quite sterile in the fact that, OK...I flew to this destination....so...other than $100.00 hamburgers.....what the heck am I doing there? This makes a reason to spend the cyber-money for fuel...the plane....and have a good reason to further your day after landing....

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Nobody buys the same watch, even though they need to keep track of time. Same for this. Some will try my idea...find it a blast, or a good once-in-a-while diversion. Some will try it, find it not for them, and move on. That's life. :)

 

Sesquashtoo,

 

I thought this was a joke really. I apologize, I was just going along with what I thought you were doing for a laugh. So, please excuse my sarcasm, but it is not for me. I will now climb back into my 337 and go watch the whales at ORCAS.

 

Bob

Well I would row the boat to shore, get in my truck and take them to the processing plant. They would give me money (pretend money of course), then I could walk to the Pup and have a beer.

 

Bob

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Bob...think about what you just posted! I know you are joking around with me...but think about what you just posted. You CREATED a scenario in your mind to further your use of FSX....to add the idea of what you would ACTUALLY be doing, if this were not a virtual situation. This is the gist of what I do, with my use of FSX. The what if's...what if I owned that cottage right there on the lake, what if I actually owned and maintained that plane that just got us there...what if I could afford the boat and lifestyle, that FSX DOES ALLOW me to 'afford'. That is the spice of being young in mind. You, Bob...can have it anyway you wish..and at what level of participant-immersion as I'll call it. No limits! No limits...if you will allow that for yourself. The sky's the limit? Nope....and neither is any other aspect-usage of FSX. Not the way I see it. I run with this attitude for myself in real life...and choose to project it within my FSX flight simulation-and whatever world. Oh...another scenario...is that you fly into a remote area you and your other half have purchased with your amphib. You bring her up to the dock on the other side of your boat. You disembark, and after taking your suitcases and supplies into your cottage, you and your better half slip into your bathing suits...and head back down to the dock. You take out Clarisse, and have a great day upon the lake that only has a few other inhabitants. You fish.....you get some great walleye....and bring them back to the 'barbie. While you are putting those beautiful and so tasty walleye fillets on the grill, your significant other brings out two cold brewskies or glasses of wine, whatever you both prefer, and proceeds to hand you one. You sit, and talk whilst the fillets grill down. You eat....enjoy the rest of the weekend...and then bringing your stuff out...load the plane, water taxi...and take off to face another week at the 'grind'...only to be sitting at your desk or working at another post....and dreaming for Friday afternoon...the drive to the airport...and after a two hour flight....once more, you taxi up to the dock...and LIFE...becomes so sweet..... There....how's THAT for an FSX usage scenario? No charge, Bob,....no charge....:)

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Bob...think about what you just posted! I know you are joking around with me...but think about what you just posted. You CREATED a scenario in your mind to further your use of FSX....to add the idea of what you would ACTUALLY be doing, if this were not a virtual situation. This is the gist of what I do, with my use of FSX. The what if's...what if I owned that cottage right there on the lake, what if I actually owned and maintained that plane that just got us there...what if I could afford the boat and lifestyle, that FSX DOES ALLOW me to 'afford'. That is the spice of being young in mind. You, Bob...can have it anyway you wish..and at what level of participant-immersion as I'll call it. No limits! No limits...if you will allow that for yourself. The sky's the limit? Nope....and neither is any other aspect-usage of FSX. Not the way I see it. I run with this attitude for myself in real life...and choose to project it within my FSX flight simulation-and whatever world. Oh...another scenario...is that you fly into a remote area you and your other half have purchased with your amphib. You bring her up to the dock on the other side of your boat. You disembark, and after taking your suitcases and supplies into your cottage, you and your better half slip into your bathing suits...and head back down to the dock. You take out Clarisse, and have a great day upon the lake that only has a few other inhabitants. You fish.....you get some great walleye....and bring them back to the 'barbie. While you are putting those beautiful and so tasty walleye fillets on the grill, your significant other brings out two cold brewskies or glasses of wine, whatever you both prefer, and proceeds to hand you one. You sit, and talk whilst the fillets grill down. You eat....enjoy the rest of the weekend...and then bringing your stuff out...load the plane, water taxi...and take off to face another week at the 'grind'...only to be sitting at your desk or working at another post....and dreaming for Friday afternoon...the driver to the airport...and after 2 hour flight....once more, you taxi up to the dock...and LIFE...becomes so sweet..... There....how's THAT for an FSX usage scenario? No charge, Bob,....no charge....:)

 

Ok, well I see your point Bud, but for me, it is a flight simulator, nothing less nothing more. I can see where you are going with this and I do admire your creativeness. I know, I could also meet a nice lady and have sex too, but again it is a flight simulator. Now taking the flight simulation to another level like Air Hauler was a great idea. The reason is that it's main focus is flight simulation, not cooking fish on the Barbi. The only thing I can say is "go for it". See what you can do. I think ORBX has the right idea. They have people flow. These folks are hanging around a parked aircraft shooting the bull, and others are having a Barbi, but again it all revolves primarily around flight simulation.

 

Bob

Ok, well I see your point Bud, but for me, it is a flight simulator, nothing less nothing more. I can see where you are going with this and I do admire your creativeness. I know, I could also meet a nice lady and have sex too, but again it is a flight simulator. Now taking the flight simulation to another level like Air Hauler was a great idea. The reason is that it's main focus is flight simulation, not cooking fish on the Barbi. The only thing I can say is "go for it". See what you can do. I think ORBX has the right idea. They have people flow. These folks are hanging around a parked aircraft shooting the bull, and others are having a Barbi, but again it all revolves primarily around flight simulation.

 

Bob

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.....and flight simulation revolves around an activity of Life. :) Only one of them. In FSX, you can have the world, so should you choose, for the world is totally depicted, and not just the sky you flight simulate in...:)

 

The above aside, I appreciate your viewpoint.

 

Mitch

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.....and flight simulation revolves around an activity of Life. :) Only one of them. In FSX, you can have the world, so should you choose, for the world is totally depicted, and not just the sky you flight simulate in...:)

 

Mitch

 

I understand what you are trying to convey. I don't know what to say now. I think flying over a guy that is fishing would be good. Do you see my perspective? This is not "The game of life" it is a flight simulator. Putting those activities in perspective as it pertains to flight simulation is what I am trying to convey to you.

 

Bob

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Nobody buys the same watch, even though they need to keep track of time. Same for this. Some will try my idea...find it a blast, or a good once-in-a-while diversion. Some will try it, find it not for them, and move on. That's life. :)

 

Quite! I found it a very nice idea. But after 5min of steering left/right it just got boring. Besides, I wasn't really able to steer like a real boat (I drive a speedboat each summer), the boat is way too unresponsive. If it had more real characteristics, I would probably like it more! The view onto the scenery is a certainly a new one...

Sesquashtoo,

 

I thought this was a joke really. I apologize, I was just going along with what I thought you were doing for a laugh. So, please excuse my sarcasm, but it is not for me. I will now climb back into my 337 and go watch the whales at ORCAS.

Bob

 

Yes...the actual 'River Racing' was in fact, correct, a gag, as I posted it as a new version of the sim, but the activity I described, was not. But the underlay is that I encourage a user to look at FSX..and think..what ELSE can I harvest from the whole world depicted within it. What other activities can I do. Of course flight simulation IS the reason that it was created in the first place. I totally agree here, and IS the main focal point of it all. But, I have always been a sort that sips a cup of coffee (or ten), cocks my head...and says; 'what else can I do with this besides a single endeavour'. So...I now party on the lake as well as getting there, lol......

 

I understand what you are trying to convey. I don't know what to say now. I think flying over a guy that is fishing would be good. Do you see my perspective? This is not "The game of life" it is a flight simulator. Putting those activities in perspective as it pertains to flight simulation is what I am trying to convey to you.

 

Bob

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I fully appreciate your point-of-view, Bob, and can also afford to see it as you do. No matter how we generate our sense of satisfaction in the use of FSX...if the end result is that satisfaction as you walk away from the comptuer desk...then it was a good exercise of time. Yes...I fully understand what you wish to convey. :)

 

Personally though, I really enjoy a depth of immersion that perhaps is not any level another might wish to arrive at. That is also perfectly acceptable in the scheme of things, lol.

 

Mitch

 

Quite! I found it a very nice idea. But after 5min of steering left/right it just got boring. Besides, I wasn't really able to steer like a real boat (I drive a speedboat each summer), the boat is way too unresponsive. If it had more real characteristics, I would probably like it more! The view onto the scenery is a certainly a new one...

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Oh...the focus wasn't on the boat itself, Word Not Allowed. It was on what you found appealing.....the view of the scenery from the water. That was and is the gist. Using FSX in another way, OTHER than only accessed by take-off and air. I mean, the detail begs for you to cruise a river, or lake-front and enjoy what work went into the mesh and terrain features. In that, you did enjoy. That was my intent for any other user of FSX. The boat...is just the vehicle, not the end result. For a boat within an flight simulator environment though...and being controlled by an aviation actuator...it does a pretty fair job of getting that 'job' done, in IMO. :)

 

Cheers!

Quite! I found it a very nice idea. But after 5min of steering left/right it just got boring. Besides, I wasn't really able to steer like a real boat (I drive a speedboat each summer), the boat is way too unresponsive. If it had more real characteristics, I would probably like it more! The view onto the scenery is a certainly a new one...

 

I am in agreement with these comments. I tried the boat, went up a river, grounded out as well. But I was soon not that much interested. I was thinking there needed to be ambient sound effects all the way along, birds, spotting wildlife. I am into the flightsimming part of things, and recently have been trying to perfect my GPS management. I want to take some time this year and jump into heavies and learn some new tricks with the big birds.

 

I personally love flying and love to throw in some nasty weather, low visability and try to find my approach airport and land according to the numbers as possible. I actually can find myself so emersed that I actually get tensed up during some scenerios I create.

 

I'll stick to the air thanks, and if i want to get down to earth I grab a helicopter and land between the trees, next to a river like I was on some sort of outdoor adventure.

To Orbx, if you are reading,....and final closing thoughts to the marine aspect of my FSX usage...

 

Orbx...John.....About an hour ago, I placed and loaded a situation out of ORCAS marina. I had the Clarisse at dock. Saved, and then started her engines and moved on out...of the marina past the persons attending to their boats, past the two gentlemen fishing at the entrance to the marina..and out towards the pod of Orcas sounding in their fun.

 

As I left, I fully enjoyed the immersive sound package of the marina, the sounds of the water laps upon the hulls around me, the sounds of the wildlife, and people enjoying their activities. How immersive and real! As stated, I headed out towards the first set of islands that are quite populated by homes, their docks and watercraft, as well as a few float-planes. I use water at full stroke, so I have the reflections of the islands, my boat, the waves, and a great 3-D wake effect. The sounds of your marina environment receded within the roar of the twin props! Wonderful realism. I then made way for the islands, and then upon arriving near shore, throttled back to around 15 mph, and toured. Your scenery package is truly astounding! The models at full usage of FSX are so real, with outbuildings, cars, garages, their placements, that you can see human activity easily in your mind. Coming up on properties close to roadways, of course there is road traffic that add to the full mix. Again....everybody can call me the most dedicated 'fanperson' out there. But...the praise is deserving for the 'bar' you have set to populate flying over...or to enjoy from the level of the water, offshore.

 

Yes..I paid for the experience, you didn't do it for free, Orbx...but that does not prevent me from thanking you very much for the level of enjoyment, the level of satisfaction that FSX would NOT have ever produced as shipped, but for you and your very talented pool of artists and creators delivering under your Orbx banner. I practically am begging other users to download the Clarisse.....place her at the ORCAS marina....save the situation, and then head out into your scenery for a day upon the water. That they tour each island right up close....explore each Easter egg marine life populated around...I even found a very animated pod of orcas in a place that I had flown over countless time low 'n slow, but did NOT pick them up! I brought the boat up close...turned off the engines...and was surprised that you even had great sound files associated with the one orca who sounds with a flip of his/her tail. That is the level of detail that NOBODY merely flying hundreds to thousands of feet above your topography is even aware of, and can enjoy. Sure...you can idle a float plane around for a bit...but you can NOT get to where you want out of each island group, their bays, side right up to some one's dock to admire the detail that you have gone to, to make things look like they should. I'm actually feeling sorry for anybody that will not give this a chance...and enjoy FSX/Orbx populated from the water, as well as from the air. Simply amazing...and again...you have given me countless hours of exploration, new findings, a new buoy that I did not know about...a lighthouse that I did not see the detail..down to the paint and rust. I can, by going past it ten feet off the starboard bow slowly, or even to stop and pause. Even the rust is not just painted on as a blotch of color/pigment..but looks flaky in some areas. Man...but this is detail, and this guy certainly is enjoying having it. Yes...I fly....but please...please, never assume that all users of FSX will never enjoy the level of detail that you have so far released under the Orbx umbrella.

 

I have decided for the next two weeks, to truly see what you have put..and where....by touring the island groups very thoroughly by means of water level and view. Thank you...and thank you yet again! I will fully support the Orbx umbrella as long as this current level to detail is maintained, the quality to date is maintained, and stays at a price point that so far, I have been willing to fully support.

 

I won't post anymore 'off use' FSX posts to the relief of some, lol. I promise! I'll just enjoy...fly in...cruise up close..and fly out. Wonderful! Wonderful...... :)

 

Mitch, the fly n' water guy.