The Icon comes with the initial download. The RV-6 comes with the rest of the islands. Neither are sold as stand-alone DLC.

 

Other than the Maule, all stand-alone DLC aircraft are cockpitless tail-dragger old warbirds. 1 out of 4 is a standard civilian aircraft that "normal" people can fly, complete with a cockpit. The rest are just toys belonging only to a handful of people in the world with way more disposable income than I can dream of having.

FYI, even CFS2 and 3 had cockpits.

1 out of 4 is a standard civilian aircraft, complete with a cockpit. The rest are toys belonging only to a handful of people in the world with way more disposable income than I can dream of having.

 

I'm not sure why it matters if the plane was free, or came with the Hawaii expansion pack or if it was paid for separately. In the end, it doesn't matter to me which way the plane was 'licensed'.

 

Any of the planes in any simulator are more than what I could ever afford... but that's part of the point of having a simulator!

You might be very surprised at how inexpensive some aircraft can be. People don't buy "new" planes like they buy "new" cars. You can get some very reasonable deals on properly-maintained 60+ year-old aircraft that are in excellent condition. I'm doing some semi-serious window-shopping myself, and I'm not a wealthy guy by any stretch of the imagination.

 

One of those million-dollar old warbirds? Hah.

Yeh... I don't think Flight is a combat simulator. It is a civilian flight simulator with a lot of warbirds. Why? That is the theme of Hawaii. The theme of Alaska is probably bush planes.

 

I'm not sure why it matters if the plane was free, or came with the Hawaii expansion pack or if it was paid for separately. In the end, it doesn't matter to me which way the plane was 'licensed'.

 

Any of the planes in any simulator are more than what I could ever afford... but that's part of the point of having a simulator!

Well it matters, because after the initial realease, all new releases are supposed to follow the market tendency, and that's my point, is it turning?

But a good answer to dismiss my question is that the scenery is not meant to be destroyed. Turning it to a combat game would mean a lot of scenery replacement, I guess

Ahh! Now I understand what you mean... but in any case it is very early anyways and these where likely planned quite a while back. I don't think they would be able to respond to market forces this quickly!

You can get some very reasonable deals on properly-maintained 60+ year-old aircraft that are in excellent condition

 

It's been a while, but I did just that when I bought a 1941 Culver Cadet (LCA, 85 hp Continental) in excellent condition back in 1987, for just $4,300 (included a fresh annual).

Agreed. Very hard to give up on that. I am keeping myself interested by navigating only with VOR and following real world approaches plates. I am going to tweak the destination marker out of the game this evening and start doing jobs using VOR instead of those awful arrows. That should make flights a bit more fun. Removing the markers may make it impossible to complete the mission properly but I am not in the game for XP and achievements, so that's not a problem. Having passengers onboard or hearing cargo simply adds something nice to it all. Hopefully this all will keep me happy until Alaska arrives.

 

Do that. It was the best thing i did. My friend and i fly every night in multiplayer and do all the jobs without a marker. It makes it so much more fun. And then add some nasty weather to the equation and you got some pretty interesting tasks ahead of you :)

 

 

Cheers

I am keeping myself interested by navigating only with VOR and following real world approaches plates.

 

J van E

 

Hi, I have been googling VOR but am having trouble getting my simple head around the subject. If I remember rightly you posted some info on this a while ago. Unfortunately I have been unable to locate it and wonder if you could please point me in the right direction.

 

Cheers

Trevor

J van E

 

Hi, I have been googling VOR but am having trouble getting my simple head around the subject. If I remember rightly you posted some info on this a while ago. Unfortunately I have been unable to locate it and wonder if you could please point me in the right direction.

 

Cheers

Trevor

 

 

I am not sure if you are wondering about VOR navigation in Flight in general or about some specific thing but in case you're asking about VOR navigation, there are few things you should know:

 

1. In Maule and RV6, you should tune in your NAV instruments to VOR frequencies you want to fly to or over.

2. After that, you should turn the OBS knob and specify the desired radial (course that leads to VOR).

3. Once you take off, make sure to intercept that radial (vertical line on your instrument). If it's too right, you turn right and fly until the needle hits the middle. After that, just try to keep it there.

4. Make sure to observe the distance to the selected VOR, so that you know how far you are from it. (the closer you get to the VOR, the needle moves away faster. also beware of constant cross winds cause sometimes your heading may differ 15 or more degrees from your actual course)

 

I know this explanation might sound too simple, but really that's mostly it. At least it's the basics. Once you master it, you can start planning longer flights over several connecting VORs or finding a runway that doesn't have ILS / VOR by intercepting radials from nearby VORs and stuff.

 

Hope this helped you at least a little bit :)

 

EDIT: In case you're wondering about radials as well, the best way to determine which one you wish to intercept and follow is to take a ruler and connect a position of your plane on the map (after you take off) and connect it to the VOR you intend to fly to. Then simply check what is your aircraft heading (once you rotate it's nose to point towards the VOR) and you will get the radial you want. Ofc, you should do this prior to actually taking off, sort of a flight plan :)

 

 

Cheers

While in the air, at any time you can quickly determine the radial you are lined up to fly toward a VOR by:

1) Tuning the VOR on the NAV radio

2) Turning the OBS knob until the needle centers with the from/to indicator reading to.

3) Turn your airplane to the heading indicated on the top of the OBS and then adjust for wind as needed to keep the needle centered.

 

Prior to take-off I suggest looking up info on your destination airport(s) using Airnav.com. It gives you VOR radials and distances for an airport near the bottom of the airport data pages.

I am not sure if you are wondering about VOR navigation in Flight in general or about some specific thing but in case you're asking about VOR navigation, there are few things you should know:

 

I would just like to become proficient at using VOR navigation in Flight and/or FS9 to make things more interesting. I have been through the tutorial and flying lesson in FS9 a few times but could never seem to get the 'hang' of it.

 

Prior to take-off I suggest looking up info on your destination airport(s) using Airnav.com. It gives you VOR radials and distances for an airport near the bottom of the airport data pages.

 

Thanks to you both for your help and pointing me in the right direction.

 

I guess it is a case of just following the basic steps and eventually things will fall into place.

 

Cheers

trevorbee,

 

You can also take a look at 'Microsoft Flight Simulator X For Pilots: Real World Training'. I found it to be a good introduction to the sometimes complicated world of instrument navigation! It was written with FSX in mind but almost all the info is generally applicable. Here is a link to the publisher's site that has some extras you can download for free including a few chapters and some sample charts etc... http://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0764588222,descCd-DOWNLOAD.html

 

You can save some money by checking if your local library has a copy (mine didn't, unfortunately, but I would think many would)!

J van E

 

Hi, I have been googling VOR but am having trouble getting my simple head around the subject. If I remember rightly you posted some info on this a while ago. Unfortunately I have been unable to locate it and wonder if you could please point me in the right direction.

 

Cheers

Trevor

 

Yes, I posted some info about it, but that method used an alternative way of using VOR. That post has been removed and I myself also left that method and I now use VOR the regular way. I know what you mean when you say you can't get your head around the subject: I had the same for years and years... But Flight forced me to use VOR and after some studying and help from others I suddenly got it... and now I wonder why I never could get my head around it, because it's quite simple...

 

Some others already posted some great replies: let me add this site to all that. It may be a long read and the writer types a bit too much, but it's great information!

 

http://www.navfltsm....com/vor-nav.htm

 

I am quite new to VOR myself but I've learned a lot and written some basic things down for future reference. I've been thinking about creating a tutorial about it, but I want it to be as simple and short as possible... which is harder to do than I thought. But maybe I will do just that sometime soon.

 

You simply have to give it a try indeed and as soon as you get confused, just ask it here and we will help you along.

 

EDIT

Almost forgot: something that really helped me to understand VOR better was this video:

 

 

It's a complete lesson about the basics of VOR. Don't listen too much to what the students say because they are wrong most of the time. I have to add that when I watched this video I already knew a bit about the basics, so this video mainly helped me to learn more about it (like the 'line of ambiguity').