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Richard Sennett

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Yeah it looks pretty etc etc but the flight planning part of it is terrible which ASE does really well. I've noticed with basic flights in Aus (SYD - MELB) and between other major routes you can't add in a lot of way points. Also you can't see current weather conditions when flying over weather stations away from Airports like ASE does so your descent wind data is way out leading to screwing up your descent. Also ASE gives you average winds/temp over the entire flight plan so you can input them into the FMC for a more accurate fuel burn which RexE doesn't...

 

 

 

ASE seems to not be updating things lately dunno what the company is doing??? Shame.

in rexe you can see weather conditons at other areas as you fly all you need to do is right click on the map and it brings a box where you can type the icao on the map and it gives you the details. And in rexe it gives the wind direction at each waypoint than you need to spend a extra minute of imputing the details in the fmc, also the map gives the storm locations, ice and tuberlance areas as well to avoid when flying

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Can people stop talking about how good essentials 'looks'. We all knew that anything coming from REX was going to look fantastic, what I want to know, preferably from someone who can compare it to AS2012, is whether or not REX have got their weather engine sorted? Is it better then the old REX engine? Is it as good as ASE was? Is it as good as AS2012? Is it better then AS2012? Do I still need paid for FSUIPC to use it?

 

How about the integration of the weather and the graphics? Is it trivial, simple, reasonable, workable or a dog? Is it that same as the old ASE + REX combination? Is it better then the old ASE + REX but not as good as AS2012? Is it as good as AS2012? Is it better then AS2012?

 

I do a lot of IFR flying so, for me, the quality of the weather engine is at least, if not more important then the view out the window, and if I am fighting to land at a strange airport at minimums, I don't tend to spend a lot of time admiring the view.

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Can people stop talking about how good essentials 'looks'.

 

No? It looks fantastic and it rightly deserves all the praise it gets.

Why not ask comparisons in the REX forums, you'll probably get more feedback there instead of the PMDG forums.

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Yeah,

 

I would like to know if it is worth saying bye bye to active sky [2012?]

 

Both are good.

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Can people stop talking about how good essentials 'looks'. We all knew that anything coming from REX was going to look fantastic, what I want to know, preferably from someone who can compare it to AS2012, is whether or not REX have got their weather engine sorted? Is it better then the old REX engine? Is it as good as ASE was? Is it as good as AS2012? Is it better then AS2012? Do I still need paid for FSUIPC to use it?

 

How about the integration of the weather and the graphics? Is it trivial, simple, reasonable, workable or a dog? Is it that same as the old ASE + REX combination? Is it better then the old ASE + REX but not as good as AS2012? Is it as good as AS2012? Is it better then AS2012?

 

I do a lot of IFR flying so, for me, the quality of the weather engine is at least, if not more important then the view out the window, and if I am fighting to land at a strange airport at minimums, I don't tend to spend a lot of time admiring the view.

you dont need a paid version of fsuipc for either version all you need is the free version for the wind shifts etc, but if u want to assign keys etc and other things than you need the paid version, plus if you dont want to admire the view than stick with as21012 plus this is the rex thread so what else do you expect people to say about it

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I have to agree on Paul with this one. Asking a similar question on either the REX or AS2012 forums will probably yiled slightly biased responses. At least here in the PMDG forums (or AVSIM) we can discuss both products on equal footing.

 

Personally, as an owner of both REX and AS2012, I'd love to know if they both compliment each other just as well as they once had in the past, or if this new Essentials makes AS2012 obsolete. I'm curious to see if we can get a review on that.

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To be honest, it's early days yet. Too early to make any definitive statements in regard to comparing the AS2012 weather engine and REXE weather engine.

 

REXE is now very capable, there's a plethora of settings to play with and thus, REXE users are still experimenting with the various options. We are all still learning.

 

Give it a few weeks to allow for any necessary service packs and recommended settings to emerge and we will have a better idea.

 

Two issues i have at the moment though are as follows...

 

Stutters more than the old REX and I have found that weather at my chosen airport isn't matching the forecast weather. may be my settings, but I notice there are reports on the REX forum of this behaviour.

 

I think it is a very exciting product though and when we get used to the myriad of settings and the developer releases any required patches it'll be regarded very highly. And yes, perhaps an AS2012 beater.

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If you are happy AS2012 owners, and you want to fly with real weather on a jet distances - stick with AS2012...

REX Ess - nice textures, good presentation of overcast skies, lack of certain features, too slow in loading, some funny behavior with the weather, flashing skies, real weather - almost but not there yet..

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takes me 3 and half minutes to load the weather in rexe have no flashing skies so it depends on one machines it is installed in

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If you are happy AS2012 owners, and you want to fly with real weather on a jet distances - stick with AS2012...

REX Ess - nice textures, good presentation of overcast skies, lack of certain features, too slow in loading, some funny behavior with the weather, flashing skies, real weather - almost but not there yet..

Hi Martin,

Watching this thread with interest, seems like I will stick to AS2012 as the weather engine and maybe install REX Essentials using cloud textures.

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Hi Martin,

Watching this thread with interest, seems like I will stick to AS2012 as the weather engine and maybe install REX Essentials using cloud textures.

 

I think thats the way to go, active sky for weather, rex for textures

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I think thats the way to go, active sky for weather, rex for textures

Yep, that's how I've got it at the moment. Very happy with it so far.! :Nerd:

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REXE Wx works differently on all machines. People should really try both weather engines (REXE & AS20012/ASE) before just taking people's word for it, because not everyone is on the same system.

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takes me 3 and half minutes to load the weather in rexe have no flashing skies so it depends on one machines it is installed in

 

Same here

 

REXE Wx works differently on all machines. People should really try both weather engines (REXE & AS20012/ASE) before just taking people's word for it, because not everyone is on the same system.

 

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I think thats the way to go, active sky for weather, rex for textures

 

That is how I'm doing it and works great.

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Better than it used to be, but not yet as good as As2012. I'll still use Rex for the graphics, but stick to As2012 for the weather.

 

Bob

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Ok, REXE only for textures. BUT, will I get lower fps than using AS2012 textures?

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I tried both Wx generators, and for me the Active Sky generator does a better job with winds aloft.

In REXE, I was seeing constant wind spiking and shifting which made my speed tape bounce up and down rapidly. I also had some major S-turns in REXE that I don't get in AS when using PMDG aircraft.

Also, AS will give you winds aloft data for every waypoint of your imported flightplan, plus it gives the average wind speed and direction for the whole flight (extremely useful when inputting data in the NGX CDU on the PERF page for fuel consumption).

REXE won't give you any of that data, but the accuracy of their winds aloft when flying is pretty close to what is reported real world.

 

However, the textures in REXE are the best I've ever seen and imo trump the AS2012 textures.

So for me, it's REXE for textures, and AS for weather.

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I don't know if this was mentioned earlier because <sorry> I haven't read completely through the several pages in this thread.

 

It makes sense to me that if you choose to uninstall Rex+Overdrive and Install Essentials, that a necessary first step would be to fire up REX and restore your original FSX textures before uninstalling it. I did that last night without problems. Once Essentials are up and running create a texture backup like in the old REX.

Here is what I did....

 

Start REX and restore original FSX textures.

Fire up FSX to check if all is okay.

Uninstall REX Overdrive

Fire up FSX again to see if all is okay.

Install new copy of Essentials <downloaded from FSS>

Run Essentials, make backup of FSX textures and completely configure program

Fire up FSX and tweak away. Check operation with PMDG aircraft.

 

 

Sorry...just a thought :)

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For me, the USP for AS2012 is the ease with which it sets the textures to suit the weather for my planned route. While the REX textures were better then those from Active Sky, they were not better enough to justify the added hassle and time involved in getting them set up correctly for my planned flight, which is why I ended up uninstalling REX and Overdrive. I accept that people have different standards and expectations from mine, and for many, the 'time and hassle' that I am complaining about is completly worthwhile. However, from what I am reading here, that situation does not seem to have changed with Essentials.

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Actually rex essential has improved from the previous version, u didnt say you even tried essentials at all but just gave up saying its just too hard, considering that other as2102 users havn't mentioned anything about being too hard to use. Plus rex does set the textures to suit one plan flight route just as easy as well,plus there are so many more options to choose from then from the previous version.

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I have absolutly no doubt that Essentials is better then REX, and I have never suggested otherwise. My point is that AS2012, by including textures which are good enough, by tightly integrating them to the weather for your plan, and by loading them quickly enough, changed the game to point where REX and Overdrive became redundent and I have heard nothing about Essentials that changes that basic fact from even its most ardent fans.

 

Instead of telling me that I am thick and lazy, why not tell me what you think it is that makes Essentials shine?

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Since everyone here is using either rexe in combination with As or rexe by itself, so if everyone is using it explains it for me

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