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REX Essential weather engine comparison pix with ASE and FSWxLite

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Nice Comparison. I am enjoying Essantials so far and look forward to the OD package as well.

 

Cheers

 

Hey Matt does it put much strain on system resources? Rex?

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Do you have AS2012? They did a huge texture update. Might be a more fair comparison between the REX-E and AS2012.

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Still takes ages to load - AS2012 takes a small fraction of the time REX takes for weather loading and interpolation.

 

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If you turn of Interpolation and I've tried it set to the far left and it takes around 12mins to load and then turn interpolation off,the results for me where the same as off,so...

Turn it of and it loads as fast as AS2012.

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Do you have AS2012? They did a huge texture update. Might be a more fair comparison between the REX-E and AS2012.

 

Might be but I'm not paying more money out to upgrade ASE to AS2012. Maybe someone with AS2012 and REXE could post some comparison pictures in thunderstorms, fog, mist situations? Would certainly be interesting to see how each depicts certain situations.

Its really a shame that the PMDG cant handle winds generated by REX weather eninge. The weather engine works if you turn the winds of within the REX settings, but with them on, the PMDG´s speed and altitude never stabilize.

 

Have anyone got a solution to this problem?

Hi

 

For the PMDG I turned the cloud and wind turbulance down to one in REX ESS, then turned on wind smoothing in FSUIPC.

That helped me, though I still got the occasional S-turn.

Sadly I stopped using REX weather because of poor performance and inaccurate destinaion weather no matter what settings I tried...I really like the textures though.

 

Tony

After ending my wait for REX-E OD and just installing the normal REX-E, I must admit that I'm pretty impressed with the new engine. I'm referring to the cloud impression and even the 'thickness' of the actual layers, giving me a very dense and not simple see-through experience. So this is adding to the new feature of actually seeing cloud towers.

 

The initial start of the application takes quite some time on my weak networked machine. I don't know what the REX-E thing is doing there, but it takes very long until the green bar is gone and the program allows for actual weather injection.

 

After that, things go well and quickly. It seems like any further data downloads and processing are done in the background. I had to play a bit with the strength of the turbulence and wind shear as they seemed a bit too much for my planes, even with FSUIPC smoothing the weather like it does with my other addons. But now there's a good and still 'live' impression of flying, not something on rails, which would be too much smoothing then.

 

I've been testing with my A2A planes so far, so we're talking about some decent FDE reacting to the new engine.

 

Looking at the resources the REX-E program grabs on my small dual core network machine, it shows that the RAM consumption is way over 200mb, which is a first. While running and just showing the weather map, the program doesn't consume any CPU power though. I hardly see some 1 or 2 percent in the taskmanager. This changes a lot when it processes new data, where it came in with close to 30. My FSX machine isn't affected and the networked one doesn't slow down on e.g. browsing or showing Plan-G though. However, it's quite a range.

 

I would wish for some more planing tools when the weather screen is showing. I'd like to type in some ICAO code and see a METAR for example, but that's only possible as long as the weather engine isn't running. However, when enabling the Vatsim download option, the data should match the one from the network, so any other tool may deliver the METAR. Still, I feel a bit lost in that planning state when compared to ASE or FSRealWx.

 

The impressions are fresh, so I'd have to grab some more planes of mine and just fly, which is big fun. So far, I'd say that this free update is well worth trying. I have to thank the OP for setting up that fire (ending my wait for OD) as it really seems to add something to the rather old FSX impression. Cloud formations and visibility changes come in very nicely and smooth. I only went up to 18.000ft so far, but the weather updates didn't cause noticeable flashing skies or stutters.

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Hey CoolP,

 

After ending my wait for REX-E OD and just installing the normal REX-E, I must admit that I'm pretty impressed with the new engine. I'm referring to the cloud impression and even the 'thickness' of the actual layers, giving me a very dense and not simple see-through experience. So this is adding to the new feature of actually seeing cloud towers.

 

The initial start of the application takes quite some time on my weak networked machine. I don't know what the REX-E thing is doing there, but it takes very long until the green bar is gone and the program allows for actual weather injection.

 

After that, things go well and quickly. It seems like any further data downloads and processing are done in the background.

 

+1 It is very slow to download and interpolate the data.

 

I've not had any significant "flashes" which some people are experiencing. My PC is running pretty hot now though what with all the extra textures and layers that REX E is injecting. However it hasn't affected my framerates, if anything they are better than before with less noticable stuttering.

 

Regards

 

Adam

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Its really a shame that the PMDG cant handle winds generated by REX weather eninge. The weather engine works if you turn the winds of within the REX settings, but with them on, the PMDG´s speed and altitude never stabilize.

 

Have anyone got a solution to this problem?

 

 

There are several ways to use the PMDG with REX Essential. We spent the majority of our testing utilizing the PMDG. Have you implemented the wind smoothing features of REX Essential? As recommened you can also turn down the Wind Turbulence, Wind Shear, and Cloud Turbulence to help. Also, we are working on a patch/update to help with some of these items.

 

Hi

 

For the PMDG I turned the cloud and wind turbulance down to one in REX ESS, then turned on wind smoothing in FSUIPC.

That helped me, though I still got the occasional S-turn.

Sadly I stopped using REX weather because of poor performance and inaccurate destinaion weather no matter what settings I tried...I really like the textures though.

 

Tony

Tony -

 

Can you give more detail about the performance issue and inaccurate destination weather information? Also, did you post this in our support forum for help?

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Hi

 

My performance issue has been stutters that were far more than before using rex.

I should have been more detailed about the incorrect weather...yesterday while doing touch and gos at cyhz rex gave me an altimeter of 3001 and on flightaware it gave 3025 so I'm not sure which was inaccurate....sorry about that.

 

Ok that being said today I reformatted my computer with a fresh install of rexess and the only issue I had was clouds disappearing then reappearing on the weather update. So I can only assume the trouble IU was having was my.my systems fault.

 

And no I haven't posted problems on the rex forum as there were other posters with the same issues so I followed those.

 

Guess I was impatient when it didnt go right off the bat...my bad...sorry.

So I will keep testing

 

Thanks

Might be but I'm not paying more money out to upgrade ASE to AS2012. Maybe someone with AS2012 and REXE could post some comparison pictures in thunderstorms, fog, mist situations? Would certainly be interesting to see how each depicts certain situations.

 

Agreed. Somebody with 2012 and the time should probably do a more comprehensive comparison. Comparing Product A(latest generation) with Product B(previous generation) is not valid or even fair. I am a big fan of REX and the work they have done over there and I have been using it for years, but if we are going to post screenshots and do comparisons, lets at least compare the latest generation of the products.

Scott

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Comparing Product A(latest generation) with Product B(previous generation) is not valid or even fair.

Speaking of fairness, that REX-E update came for free and instantly rendered the 'previous generation' the current one. The FSRealWx freeware gets patched every few months, staying current, staying free and even adding features. So I guess there is validity and sense when comparing ASE (with the latest SP) to other weather engines as this may be the basis quite some folks are still using, avoiding the extra cost on AS2012.

 

'It's much better now' and 'go get it' alone may not automatically lead folks to buy the third weather engine for FSX from the very same dev. So I think that the picture comparison done by Adam has set a mark on how to handle and show differences. Same location and time, same METAR, three different weather engines. Simple and effective that is. :good:

 

Agreed, if an AS2012 user would add his shots in the same useful manner, it would even enhance the thread.

 

Besides, ASE still is looked at as being the current weather only addon from Hifi, if I get their sales page right. The price also compares to the full REX release.

Speaking of fairness, that REX-E update came for free and instantly rendered the 'previous generation' the current one. The FSRealWx freeware gets patched every few months, staying current, staying free and even adding features. So I guess there is validity and sense when comparing ASE (with the latest SP) to other weather engines as this may be the basis quite some folks are still using, avoiding the extra cost on AS2012.

 

'It's much better now' and 'go get it' alone may not automatically lead folks to buy the third weather engine for FSX from the very same dev. So I think that the picture comparison done by Adam has set a mark on how to handle and show differences. Same location and time, same METAR, three different weather engines. Simple and effective that is. :good:

 

Agreed, if an AS2012 user would add his shots in the same useful manner, it would even enhance the thread.

 

Besides, ASE still is looked at as being the current weather only addon from Hifi, if I get their sales page right. The price also compares to the full REX release.

 

 

If we go further down the road with your flawed premise, then I guess that comparing freeware(FSRealWx) to payware(the other two) is also invalid because you can't get the REX base package for free either, just the updates. Seriously now, lets raise the level of the debate and compare the latest generation of products rather than getting into the weeds over paid updates vs unpaid updates. The OP has screenshots from three products. Two of the products are of the latest generation, the third is not. It is very interesting, I am sure the OP meant well, I am not attacking him or anybody else. I normally stay out of the fray, but it is an invalid comparison, plain and simple.

Scott

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I must admit that I don't quite get what you are seeing as invalid or why you scramble my words while quoting them in full. Apologies. :mellow:

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