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A quick fly by of Pro ATC

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Is there any video of someone actually using it or something . FSX ATC its kind of stupid sometimes . I don't know if its just me or this happens to everyone . But when am taxing on the runway FSX ATC will only tell me hold position when the other aircraft is right in front of you which you have to press brakes hard before you crash into the other plane . FSX ATC will send you right into a crash zone if you don't pay attention . Also when you are coming in for a landing in a busy airport . Oh my god like in KMIA gosh i had a hard time landing there. The ATC send tones of plane to land in one single runway i was like come on why doesn't the atc send other planes to land in an other runway i mean miami international airport has like 4 runways or more i think . An when am coming in for landing it almost looks like an airshow all these planes one after another coming in with the same approach one behind the other. I was like this is funny because when the other aircraft are about to land ATC out of no where tells them to go around after they said cleared for landing . I just sit back an LMAO . Another thing that happen to me was when i was on final approach ATC send a military aircraft on the same rout i was going to an about the same al**ude i was about 2,000 Ft an the military was 3,000Ft an coming in for the same landing as i did. All of a sudden the traffic alert system start driving me crazy an i was busy looking for the other aircraft when i notice it was right on top of me . I had to put my pmdg aircraft into a dive so i won't crash with the other aircraft . In the real world i think the traffic alert system will tell on pilot to decent an the other pilot to climb . But yet again its computer simulator . But the point is its about time to upgrade FSX stupid ATC to something new . But i would love to see video before i make my purchase . So i think am going to wait until others buy it an give there thoughts about it .

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Hey Chock,

 

Thanks for the review, Looks really promising , but no where close to 65 bucks for a product with no SID and STAR ( at least should be able to port flight plan to all the best aircraft out there) , and of course network support for the moving map function. No point in moving map otherwise. Enough Bashing. I really hope the developer updates it with all the necessary things add AIRAC support fast and network...

 

<<<<< keeping fingers crossed for this to be the best ATC.... its really past due to have a kick &amp;@(&#036;* ATC for FSX... ( I dont prefer online flying, so my reactions to ATC is understated...)

 

Thanks again , CHock.. And is the airaft in the pic 787 from aerosim ???? or afs 350

 

Unless I'm reading wrong, it does SID and STARs and assigns the STAR on approach as it should.

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Yes, it does indeed do SIDs and STARs, my comment, which appears to have been misread, related to the fact that some airports do not have some of the SIDs or STARs which they should have in reality, for example, Manchester International EGCC has none of its STARs in there at all, but it does have SIDs.

 

And to the other question, yes it is indeed the AeroSim Boeing 787 Dreamliner in those screenshots. By default, there are a large number of airliners listed which you can use on your flight plans, but there is a similar capability to FSBuild and EFB in that you can add your own airliners to the list if you like, whereby you enter a few basic stats and the name of the aircraft type.

 

As far as airlines go, like Radar Contact, there is a big list of airlines you can choose from, plus you can enter your flight number and ATC will then call you via that callsign. For example, I chose Air Atlantique and the flight number 7575, and ATC was then calling me using 'Alpha Alpha 7575', which is not stictly correct since Air Atlantique's radio callsign is 'Atlantic', which Radar contact does actually get right, but that was a minor quibble as far as I was concerned.

 

With regard to a video of it in use, I'm going to make one shortly, and hopefully post it in a few hours or so..

 

Al

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Two piccies of blagging a SID and a STAR into Pro ATC. EGCC has no SIDs listed, and LEAM has no STARs listed, so here I've generated a simple A to B flight plan, then right clicked on the intersections and beacons I wanted in my plan and then saved it. That has included pretty much the Honiley 1 SID from off Runway 23 right at EGCC, and the ILS approach procedure to Runway 26 STAR at LEAM by simply picking the beacons and waypoints listed on the procedure charts, although it is not exactly correct, since one of the custom waypoints I needed for the Honiley SID is not available, but it is pretty close to the correct procedure. Not ideal of course, since you cannot add you own SIDs and STARs to the database either (which hopefully they will patch so that you can), but it does mean you can get to have ATC make you fly the procedures more or less correctly if you really want to:

 

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The test now is to see if ATC is aware that it will be vectoring me for an approach into LEAM which will have me descending over the Sierra Nevada Mountain range, which rises several thousand feet in places and forms a barrier to the north of Almeria and the flat coastal plain upon which it sits. For trivia fans, those mountains are where most of the famous Spaghetti Westerns with Clint Eastwood in them, such as A Fistful of Dollars and The Good the Bad and the Ugly, were filmed.

 

The default FSX ATC is known to vector you into this terrain, which is in fact what narked me off about it and made me buy Radar Contact, which keeps you clear of this terrain hazard, so let's see if Pro ATC is aware of this danger too. I'll let you know in about two hours when I've made the flight and hopefully not flown into a cloud with a granite centre.

 

Al

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I just talked to the dev and he stated that voice control would be implemented in about 2 months. Thought some here might be interested in knowing that.

 

Bob

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Figured that one was coming, but it's good to have it confirmed. Cheers Bob.

 

Al

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Maybe a lil competition will finally bring RCV5 to light.

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Yup, that thought occurred to me too.

 

Al

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Chock.... Get back to your video Plz.... No offense... was waiting for a ATC since i started fsx IFR.... rc4 put me off cause of the robot....

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I was working with RC and MCE today. I had some issues with RC4 lagging. It worked good today and nice to have. They compliment each other nicely. It would be nice though to have a newcomer with some dedication to finally get one product that satisfies a need that most of us have had for a long time. I wish them luck. I am keeping my fingers crossed.

 

Bob

 

Just heard back from the dev on AI. It does work with the FSX AI regardless if this is the default AI or addons such as MyTraffic etc. I would assume that UT2 will not work. He did not mention UT2 in his reply, but stated "FSX AI" which UT2 is not.

 

Bob

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Are they going to provide a demo? Be nice at the price it's listed to try first.

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No mention of a demo that I know off, but it does say there will be videos of it in operation up soon.

 

Just heard back from the dev on AI. It does work with the FSX AI regardless if this is the default AI or addons such as MyTraffic etc. I would assume that UT2 will not work. He did not mention UT2 in his reply, but stated "FSX AI" which UT2 is not.

 

I don't see why UT2 wouldn't work, the only difference is how it's injected into the sim which the UT2 driver handles. After that it just uses the default ATC system.

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Chock thanks for all your input and looking forward to see your video! :Hypnotized:

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It doesn't like my AI traffic (Ultimate Traffic), you'll see that on my little video, which is uploading to youtube right now, and will be apparently about 45 minutes, since it is only short, but pretty high res. Incidentally, Pro Atc crashed whilst I was making it, right after I took off and got vectored to my route entry point, and it still occasionally closes windows on me randomly, so I think that it could do with a bit of patching stability wise.

 

I'll stick a link to the video on this thread shortly. The FPS is attrociously bad on the video by the way, thanks to fraps recording it at high res, but I had to do it all at high res so that you'd be able to read the ATC menus, so don't get put off by the frame rates, they are nothing to do with Pro ATC, it has no appreciable impact on FPS as far as I can see.

 

Al

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Thanks Chock, you are the best,

you took one for the community, greatly appreciate it.

 

Mathew

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Al, you should use GameCam, it's much less system resource hungry and frames are much better. Take a look at my videos, except for the MCE videos I always use it. That's with complex aircraft like the NGX, 100% traffic, extremely dense scenery, Dense Autogen, except for the NGX ones, where I had to use Sparse because of lack of memory problems. This is all with only a 3GHZ E6850 4GBmem system running 32bit Vista!! It does have a couple of issues, it won't handle FS9 modeled aircraft only FSX native, and occasionally hits a sound glitch which if you use Moviemaker that section would have to be edited out. Sony Vegas have no problem reading though it.

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To be honest I could have knocked off the 100 percent AI and antialiasing and some other stuff in FSX, but frankly, it was just a video to show the audio and the menus, so the fps hardly matters very much and I like my FSX settings, so long as you can hear the audio and see the menus, that's all that you really need to see.

 

I don't tend to use FRAPs much at all really. Don't have Sony Vegas, I use Premier and After Effects if I'm doing proper editing and effects, although this one I couldn't be bothered doing that with, so I just knocked it up quickly in moviemaker. It's good enough to show what it does to anyone who is curious, it's not like it is a promotional demo for the company or anything. 20 mins to go on the upload by the way, time for a cup of tea.

 

Al

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Here you go for a quickie video of it in action:

 

 

Al

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Yup, if they can make it work with UT, it'd be cool, but even so it is still pretty good. I don't think it quite blows Radar Contact away yet because of that limitation, but it might end up doing so if they can jump that hurdle.

 

Al

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Love the video chock i will be ordering it right now . I am so tired of FSX ATC . I know this product will receive Service pack an so on when times goes by an it might improve more an more . So thanks for the video chock i wanted to listen to the sound of the ATC voice just wanted to confirm that is not some robotic voice . :)

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Yeah, I'm sure it'll get tarted up with patches, it is very early days, and although it has the odd stability issue, it certainly does what they claim even as it is now. An encouraging sign was this email I got from the developer, because he noticed I registered it twice (after having reinstalled it) and thought I might be having a problem, I'll post the email content here because it is an indication of some thoughtful customer service:

 

'Hello Alan, as I have seen, you have already unlocked a second time. Still need to be unlocked via e-mail?

Regards, Mourad Boutabba'

 

Nice huh? I was pretty impressed that a developer would take the trouble to email me simply because he thought I might be having problems with installing it. Don't get that from every developer, do you?

 

Al

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Wawo chock that is great . Its makes you feel more better knowing that you are not alone when you order this product. So i will order it now an let you guys know if i have any issue . An fallowing your foot step in what you did to get it running perfect. I will run as admin for the installation an also when starting up this paywares to not have any issue with it . Thanks chock an also coming from a person like you give the good an the bad for any thing it is great. Because your truthful no matter what an gives the best of what is best an the bad of what is bad. An since you have more positive on this new development for FSX well where is the harm in trying this out. I don't see no harm . So thank you very much this made my day an will make me enjoy the rest of my weekend lol .

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