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Just registered on the Pro ATC forum, not much on there yet of course, it being new.

 

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I tempted to get this but I already have rc4,pfe and voxatc.I'm looking for a good enough reason to buy it.is there anything I'd gain from buying this ? I like the flight planning thing but if I understand correctly it is as good of a flight planner as the ms one?

 

Any of you tried planning a transatlantic flight ? Does proatc get nats off the internet ?

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Top one is EGLL to KJFK, bottom one is KJFK to EGLL, so no, they are not daily NAT tracks. You could probably tweak them, but then again, you could do that in the default FS planner too actually.You would gain the nice co pilot function though, which is nice for checklists and cockpit assistance, but whether you think that's worth it is another matter.

 

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Voice recognition will be an extra fee once implemented. Darn!!

Anyone created any new voice sets?

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Voice recognition will be an extra fee once implemented. Darn!!

Anyone created any new voice sets?

Bob

 

Negative Ghost Rider! That was asked over in their forum.

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Negative Ghost Rider! That was asked over in their forum.

 

Negative Captain. Here is the post.

 

Voice recognition will be implemented. It may take a few weeks to be completed and it will be released as an upgrade and not as an update - therefore not for free. The price for it isn't yet fixed but it will for sure stay under 25 EUR.

 

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Voice recognition will be implemented. It may take a few weeks to be completed and it will be released as an upgrade and not as an update - therefore not for free. The price for it isn't yet fixed but it will for sure stay under 25 EUR.

 

I'll pass.There isn't any thing this program will do that VOX won't do.

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If they make it too much to upgrade to the voice capability, I suspect it will effectively price itself out of the market. It's not as if it is inexpensive as it is, at forty quid, so they'll have to think very carefully about that. Ping the price tag much over fifty quid, and I should think many people will give it a swerve, because that'd be the same as it would cost to buy both MCE and FS Build, and doing that would actually give you more capability.

 

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I'll pass.There isn't any thing this program will do that VOX won't do.

 

 

Maybe there is.The copilot function ?

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If they make it too much to upgrade to the voice capability, I suspect it will effectively price itself out of the market. It's not as if it is inexpensive as it is, at forty quid, so they'll have to think very carefully about that. Ping the price tag much over fifty quid, and I should think many people will give it a swerve, because that'd be the same as it would cost to buy both MCE and FS Build, and doing that would actually give you more capability.

 

Al

 

One thing I would note here is that if this product grows to be a high quality product in all areas of it's current feature list, i.e. flight planning, co-pilot, ATC, then many I believe will probably say "Ah what's another 20-25 quid to put the icing on the cake". I guess time will tell. But in order to ask additional coin for voice recognition, the product will need to be very solid and continue to expand on it's current feature list. They have an opportunity here. Many have been waiting a long time for RC5 and I think may just jump ship.

 

Bob

 

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Yup, that may be true. Since I have it already, I probably would throw the extra cash at it to see what the voice stuff was like, since I'm already part way in on the deal. But for those who are not, coming at it from the standpoint of, 'oh it's forty quid, plus another...' what? 10? 15? 25? quid for the voice function; I think that is going to look like a pretty steep price of entry.

 

Although having said that, if it gets a bit more flexibility in the flight planning department and starts to play nice with payware AI, then I could see it conceivably becoming a 'must have' product. As you say, I guess we will see. The nice thing here though, is that it's another runner in the race, and that can only be good for us consumers, because as we know, there's nothing drives innovation so much as competition.

 

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Maybe there is.The copilot function ?

 

For a number of my aircraft I use FS2crew. I'm hoping this program pans out because I'm always looking for something that increases the immersion factor.

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Yup, that may be true. Since I have it already, I probably would throw the extra cash at it to see what the voice stuff was like, since I'm already part way in on the deal. But for those who are not, coming at it from the standpoint of, 'oh it's forty quid, plus another...' what? 10? 15? 25? quid for the voice function; I think that is going to look like a pretty steep price of entry.

 

Although having said that, if it gets a bit more flexibility in the flight planning department and starts to play nice with payware AI, then I could see it conceivably becoming a 'must have' product. As you say, I guess we will see. The nice thing here though, is that it's another runner in the race, and that can only be good for us consumers, because as we know, there's nothing drives innovation so much as competition.

 

Al

 

I have not purchased yet but I am getting that anxious feeling again LOL. I am just another addicted flight sim addict and I don't think I need to explain, if you know what I mean. There is nothing more satisfying that getting a new product and getting involved with it. This is not just a little airport add-on or a new aircraft either. This is something much bigger than that. The dev is onto something here, but he is in short supply of staff I believe, and that in itself can take it's toll on anyone, regardless of who they are. I just hope that he has the dedication and perseverance to keep moving forward and stay focused. This is going to either make him or brake him. One minute I am ready to buy, and then the next minute I talk myself into waiting to see what happens. There is no doubt that there has been considerable work put into this to date, but now that it has been released, the job gets a little harder.

 

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Negative Captain. Here is the post.

 

Voice recognition will be implemented. It may take a few weeks to be completed and it will be released as an upgrade and not as an update - therefore not for free. The price for it isn't yet fixed but it will for sure stay under 25 EUR.

 

Bob

 

Sorry, I didn't clarify. I was referring to the second part of your post. I had already seen that; we had a miscommunication - that's all.

 

Has anyone found out if FAA rules apply? It would be neat to have things such as FL180 transitions, and the "Positive rate, gear up.", as opposed to the ICAO, "Positive climb, gear up."

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If the developer is listening: Please rethink your costs. I would love something with the features you are adding but not for nearly $90. It's the reason I haven't purchased VOX either which is a fine program. I know this isn't the place to get into an economics thing so I won't but I am sure I'm not alone in this.

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If the developer is listening: Please rethink your costs. I would love something with the features you are adding but not for nearly $90. It's the reason I haven't purchased VOX either which is a fine program. I know this isn't the place to get into an economics thing so I won't but I am sure I'm not alone in this.

 

The developer, so far, has had no interaction on this forum; he/they has/have their own. Go to the Pointsoft site, and hit the Forum button. You could also shoot them an email.

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Like a lot of software, there are a number of programs that handle ATC that do certain things very well. No program that I've found does it all. I own, RC4,PFE and VOX ATC. If I could put them all in a blender and mix them up, I might have an ATC program that does it all. I don't even mind paying a premium price if it does it all well. Maybe ProATC will be that program. Only time will tell.

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I don't even mind paying a premium price if it does it all well. Maybe ProATC will be that program. Only time will tell

 

I agree!. I'm just glad that someone took a shot at doing another ATC program. Competition is good for us simer's so I'm voting for the developer to succeed with this add-on.

 

A few months ago I suggested to Bryan York, the dev of FS2Crew to try and create an ATC addon to complement his current FS2crew addons. He said he wouldn't bother, that there are good ATC programs out there like VoxATC. He said why try to invent the wheel again!. I just thought that with his excellent FS2Crew programs that an ATC addon from him would actually be a great pair.

 

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Bought it, installed it and patched it.Even with the patch and run as admin sometimes windows would close on me. I managed to take off...then all of a sudden atc when silent.I asked for higher/lower altitude or atis frequencies but atc would not answer at all.Some 100 nm before landing pro atc froze,fsx got stuck and I had to kill them both with task manager. :Waiting:

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The only thing keeping

Bought it, installed it and patched it.Even with the patch and run as admin sometimes windows would close on me. I managed to take off...then all of a sudden atc when silent.I asked for higher/lower altitude or atis frequencies but atc would not answer at all.Some 100 nm before landing pro atc froze,fsx got stuck and I had to kill them both with task manager. :Waiting:

 

ouch, this product is clearly still in the testing stage and should not have been released without testing the water first. Is there a refund policy?

 

I hope like everyone else here it does takeoff (and land) so we can all get the ATC we deserve

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Hi Chock and many thanks for your review. Very appreciated. But I'm still confused with AI traffic, does it work or not work with Ultimate Traffic 2? If not, why?

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Zoran,

 

Not sure if I'm doing things wrong but I can't make the software work right. Let me add that I do like this atc program better than the other ones I have (rc,voxatc and pfe).What happened just now is as follows:

 

The program created the following f-plan. : LFBO 14-L DME MEDAP AMOLO UT24 FJR UY373 ABILI UN853 IRMAR KUMIN TOP LIME (fl300)

 

I took off and followed proatc's directions to the letter.At some point I expected atc to tell me to the descend butit did not.I decided to wait see what atc would tell me to do so I kept going. I flew past kumin top and lime and atc told me to continue on un853 and maintain heading and altitude.. I ended up well into austria (144 nm past lime) when atc repeated the same thing (continue on un853 and maintain heading and altitude).Proatc at this point crashed and I had to kill fsx.

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still confused with AI traffic, does it work or not work with Ultimate Traffic 2? If not, why?

 

I'll chime in regarding MyTrafficX. As I stated on the front page comments (the last page), I had a flight plan from LAX to SFO. ProATC gave me permission to line up on R/W 24L and I advised the flight attendants to prepare for takeoff. Then, I heard the default ATC jump in (which controls MyTrafficX AI) and it told an aircraft to line up on 24L. Took a spot view and the aircraft entered and ran over my aircraft and took off before me (I have pictures but don't think they are needed). So the default ATC does not remove the default ATC. I assume this happens with any addon AI program like UT2.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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Many thanks Jim, but in the future would not be possible to solve this issue?

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