747-400 being phased out by airlines

[NGXfanatic 85]

Hi everyone. I had stumbled upon an interesting read on the 747-400, and the impact that current high fuel costs (a third of an airline's typical costs) have had on this model, leading to a 10% discount on used airframes as young as just 10 years old, compared to other aircraft of similar vintage.

 

Be aware, the author makes little mention of the new -8 series, and some commenters sense it's biased towards Airbus, but IMHO it helps explain why Asian carriers are abandoning the 4 engine heavies in favor of twins like the 777 and A330 in an effort to cut fuel costs.

 

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-06-21/boeings-747-400-a-faded-queen-of-the-skies

 

It's sad, it does look like the ole Queen is heading towards an early retirement.

[FLEX1978 373]

No retirement for a very long time. She will be flying raw data approaches into exotic cargo destinations for many years to come :)

[G-CIVA 62]

No retirement for a very long time. She will be flying raw data approaches into exotic cargo destinations for many years to come :)

 

Amen to that Rob!

[Avantime 81]

SQ retired theirs a while ago, and CX is thinking of retiring theirs as well. However their own respective cargo divisions will convert the old pax airframes for cargo use.

 

http://www.flightglobal.com/Features/Singapore-Airlines-747-retirement/

 

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/2012/05/18/cathay-pacific-hastens-its-retreat-from-747s/

[ZKOKQ 984]

Air NZ have sent most of their 747's to Victorville. Only two left now, and those two will be off to the scrapper within the next 18 months, being replaced with 777 and 787.

[ajpongress 467]

United will eventually replace theirs with A350's, but no time frame on that.

[PHXMD-11 86]

United will eventually replace theirs with A350's, but no time frame on that.

 

The A350 is expected to be delivered sometime after 2015. So a few more years left for UA's 744s. Maybe by then the 748 will perform a little better in the passenger market.

[Airbusman 1]

The A380's early timing has also put a major dent in the 747 program with over 200 orders.

[KVSmith72 1]

I think there is still life left in the Queen. Delta is refurbishing their 747s so they plan to keep the old girl around. So there is life in the girl. Long live the Queen!

[dskviator 4]

The 744 may be on the way out, and as many have stated, that's still a long way, but the 748s should take over atleast a bit and keep the Queen's legacy for a looooong time

[lowlevel 0]

well I would not write off the 747 so fast... wondering why nobody mention ths for exmaple:

 

http://www.gizmag.com/boeing-747-8-biofuel-atlantic-crossing/18940/

[ZKOKQ 984]

wondering why nobody mention ths for exmaple

I am wondering how we could if we did not know

[lowlevel 0]

I am wondering how we could if we did not know

 

it was big news last year @ Bourget ... they flew out of KBFI to Paris non stop on biofuel and landed @ the airshow...

I know this comes from the PR dept, nut anyway:

http://www.boeing.com/Features/2011/06/bca_biofuel_06_15_11.html

[Sekstifire 10]

The 744 may be on the way out, and as many have stated, that's still a long way, but the 748s should take over atleast a bit and keep the Queen's legacy for a looooong time

"nobody" have bought the 748, at least not the 748-i. The sales figures have been very underwhelming

[KriVa 307]

Beacuse the 748 isn't primarily aimed for the PAX market, as you can see in the sales numbers as well.