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SUSPECTED INCORRECT VALUE IN PMDG MD-11 FCOM

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This is with reference to the value stated for Dry Runway Estimated Landing Distance at Flaps 50/EXT mentioned on Page No 420 Under Procedures and Techniques section of the PMDG MD-11 FCOM (Doc Ref: PMDG MD-11 FCOM/PD.00.2/DTD 04 AUGUST, 2008). The Value mentioned therein is 1550. I suppose it is a typographical error and should have been 4550 instead. Refer attachment for details. Kindly cross check your documention.

 

Kind regards,

 

George

Mechanical Engineer

IND

 

 

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I think it's something we're going to have to live with. I don't see them going back and changing one little number when you can clearly see it should be a 4.


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Yes Sir. I can understand that. Just Intimated.. Thats all :) BTW I guess they still print our the hard copies of the documentation including the FCOM. So may be this my help them from printing the same mistake again. Afterall I guess there are so many customers who still continue to purchase hard copies of various MD-11 documents at a huge price. So a little change might keep them happy :)

 

Kind regards,

 

George

Mechanical Engineer

IND

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I think it's something we're going to have to live with. I don't see them going back and changing one little number when you can clearly see it should be a 4.

 

Hey, you never know. There may be a glitch in the matrix, and you can actually stop the thing in 1550ft if the weight is EXACTLY 480lb.

 

Who's going to try?

 

Paul

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Hey, you never know. There may be a glitch in the matrix, and you can actually stop the thing in 1550ft if the weight is EXACTLY 480lb.

 

Hi Paul!! Kindly Refer landing distances in the columns preceding and succeeding the incorrect value, corresponding to Wt 460000 lbs and 50000 lbs which is 4410 and 4720 respectively, as well as see other charts with the similar pattern of landings distances increasing with the increasing weight for any given temperature. So its highly unlikely for the value to be deviating out of the pattern ie: 1550 @ 480000 lbs. For details please reffer attachment with trend indicator graph for details ( The doted Blue line indicates the Stoping distance Trend @ Surface Level with STD=15C.

Anyways as you said, its always worth a try in FSX :)

 

Kind regards,

 

George

Mechanical Engineer

IND

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.....Its a bloody Addon for a computer game......

 

Some people are interested in simulating as accurately as possible, some are just interested in flying the Extra 300S around aimlessly. Your comment is nothing short of ridiculous, if you're not interested in realism, you probably shouldn't be in the PMDG subsection of the forum.

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I love realism, but this thread is rediculous, its a typo...so what, grab some whiteout and a pen and fix it yourself.

 

Or is that too much like common sense for you lot and you need PMDG to change your undies for you as well?

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I love realism, but this thread is rediculous, its a typo...so what, grab some whiteout and a pen and fix it yourself.

 

Or is that too much like common sense for you lot and you need PMDG to change your undies for you as well?

 

So what you're essentially saying is exactly what the first response was to the thread, except you decided to sum it up as

 

".....Its a bloody Addon for a computer game....."

 

Helpful. No-one reads that and thinks you're saying "It's a typo, you'll have to fix it for yourself"; if you think it does, you clearly need a better means of expressing yourself.

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No...the point to my post was "it doesnt matter"

 

So why spend however long it took for the OP to type up his post take screen shots for something so miniscule.

 

Quite simply, why bother, just accecpt that it is a computer game.

 

Whats next? I measured the landing distance and it was off by 2.46871" I demend you fix it

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Relax Zebra chief :) Whenever someone comes across an error, no matter how small, we should highlight it. It’s not to demeanor an anyone/ any organization or anything else, instead the intent is to prevent mistakes from happening in the future. Also When ever we point out something, we need to have enough reason / proof to substantiate our claims. Hence the graphs.

 

BTW even if its a simulation and no one would get killed if the values are in correct, I’m sure PMDG as a company with immense reputation to the finest details would appreciate responses from customers who points out their short comings and errors. So that they can always come up something a little more better in the future. And that what customers like me would expect from them.

 

Moreover PMDG provides Hard copies of documentation which is bought by customers around the world. “I mean the serious Sim enthusiasts do”. So if they come across such an error they will definitely revise the error while printing it the next time. The are not going to say “Hey!! Its just a simulation – so let’s just leave it there” No No way for a organization like PMDG.

 

I’m not here for an argument. Just felt like pointing it out and I did. BTW it would be nice if you could be a bit more courteous while being in forums. If you are disappointed in a thread like this, you may express your feeling about it, No issues with that, however please try to be a bit more courteous while being on public forums.

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Hi Paul!! Kindly Refer landing distances in the columns preceding and succeeding the incorrect value, corresponding to Wt 460000 lbs and 50000 lbs which is 4410 and 4720 respectively, as well as see other charts with the similar pattern of landings distances increasing with the increasing weight for any given temperature. So its highly unlikely for the value to be deviating out of the pattern ie: 1550 @ 480000 lbs. For details please reffer attachment with trend indicator graph for details ( The doted Blue line indicates the Stoping distance Trend @ Surface Level with STD=15C.

Anyways as you said, its always worth a try in FSX :)

 

Kind regards,

 

George

Mechanical Engineer

IND

 

I guess you missed that I was joking :P . Yes, it's an error.

 

Paul

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This is with reference to the value stated for Dry Runway Estimated Landing Distance at Flaps 50/EXT mentioned on Page No 420 Under Procedures and Techniques section of the PMDG MD-11 FCOM (Doc Ref: PMDG MD-11 FCOM/PD.00.2/DTD 04 AUGUST, 2008). The Value mentioned therein is 1550. I suppose it is a typographical error and should have been 4550 instead. Refer attachment for details. Kindly cross check your documention.

 

Kind regards,

 

George

Mechanical Engineer

IND

 

 

Hi George,i have accurate data for md-11.(from real)

In flap50.

Dry condition is 7430,wet is 8410.<No wind.

Dry condition is 8100,wet is 9140.<10 knot tailwind.

 

Computer game? Not at all....Have some real pilot was use PMDG addon,and got not bad review.

Fs Addon developer create aircraft as possible in fs limit,if you don't like,just go away.

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Hey Jia, That was kind of you to take some effort to dig up information of MD11 from the real operations manual. Really appreciate that. BTW as you motioned, the developers try to replicate / model airplanes as accurately as possible these days, which is a huge blessing as far as we as serious simmers are concerned.

 

Meanwhile from where could you gain access to Real Ops Manual. Do you work in an MD11 back ground or pulled it from you MD11 pilot contacts:)Anyways that’s a spectacular thing to do.

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