August 16, 201213 yr Hi. Employer asking for a password? Tell them you have no account. Employer insists you open a FB account, and that you give them full access? You'd have to be desperate (or very foolish) to work for someone like that. If the request is within the law in your country set up a dummy account and give your prospective employer full access to the account you'll never use. Have a separate (private) account for your virtual socialising. What could be simpler? I don't see any difficulty. For interest, here are two excerpts from my employer's IT code of conduct (sorry, it was a pdf). My employer is a global, British registered company owned as a subsidiary of a large American conglomerate (if that's the right word) so I would guess that my terms of employment are subject to UK and US law. I confess I often log in to Avsim before starting work and leave it open all day, dropping by during breaks. Legally, I'm probably committing gross misconduct --this forum effectively provides a social network-- and I ought to be sacked, but my employer is intelligent enough to distinguish between access and activity. I have to say I'd be shocked if any UK employer tried to insist on access to an employee's social accounts, without a legally and morally valid reason. As for asking for such things at a prospective employee's interview, I think most British candidates would just burst out laughing. Regards, D
August 17, 201213 yr Just for the record US citizens are supposed to be protected by our constitution from unwarrented search and seizure, but that primarily applies to law enforcement activities. This activity falls into the area of violation of privacy, and seems not to be illegal yet. Those companies that I've heard of doing this are primarily looking at it as a way of assessing a person's character, or their suitability for a security clearance. in one case I heard about, a woman applied for a teaching position at a private girls' school and they wanted to make sure she'd be a good role model.
August 17, 201213 yr Just for the record US citizens are supposed to be protected by our constitution from unwarrented search and seizure, but that primarily applies to law enforcement activities. This activity falls into the area of violation of privacy, and seems not to be illegal yet. Those companies that I've heard of doing this are primarily looking at it as a way of assessing a person's character, or their suitability for a security clearance. in one case I heard about, a woman applied for a teaching position at a private girls' school and they wanted to make sure she'd be a good role model. The founding fathers could not have anticipated things like the Internet. Freedoms have always been a bit of a juggling act. This is why companies think they can get away with it when their is a loop hole in the laws. Facebook should just sue the pants off any company that requests this information from employees. Give them a PR Nightmare and expensive litigation that it is not worth it to fight a costly battle. Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
August 17, 201213 yr Weird world these days. LOL.. Yall don't worry... It all ends this December 22nd anyway.
August 17, 201213 yr Facebook should just sue the pants off any company that requests this information from employees. Give them a PR Nightmare and expensive litigation that it is not worth it to fight a costly battle Actually Facebook would end up suing the subscriber since that's whom the terms of use agreements with, not the employer. They would have no standing suing the employer. They didn't agree to anything. Thanks Tom My Youtube Videos! http://www.youtube.com/user/tf51d
August 17, 201213 yr Report the other day said employers are less likely to hire someone who is not on FB than someone who is. With so many people on FB employers look at the lack of a profile as suspicious even reclusive behavior counter to their hiring environments. The most common concern was that someone who did not have a profile was so full of red flags their account was deleted... Recent news stories have suggested that employers may be reluctant to hire people without a Facebook profile on the grounds that Facebook usage has become so common that not having an account is seen as somehow abnormal. This concern appears to have been compounded by a lurid report in a German newspaper that alleged mass killers James Holmes and Anders Behring Breivik did not have Facebook accounts, leading to the rather hysterical conclusion that not having an account “could be the first sign that you are a mass murderer.” Is there any substance to these concerns? Research suggests that although not having a Facebook account might be unusual nowadays it is hardly cause for alarm. Indeed, the fact that someone has an account is hardly a credential of mental health either, and may be associated with its own problems, admittedly minor ones. Facebook has become such a pervasive force in modern society that increasing numbers of employers, and even some psychologists, believe people who aren't on social networking sites are 'suspicious.'The German magazine Der Taggspiegel went so far as to point out that accused theater shooter James Holmes and Norwegian mass murder Anders Behring Breivik have common ground in their lack of Facebook profiles. On a more tangible level, Forbes.com reports that human resources departments across the country are becoming more wary of young job candidates who don't use the site. Normal: Facebook has become so pervasive in this culture that not having a profile is considered 'abnormal' The common concern among bosses is that a lack of Facebook could mean the applicant's account could be so full of red flags that it had to be deleted. Slate.com Advice Columnist, Emily Yoffee, wrote in an advice column that young people shouldn't date anyone who isn't on Facebook. 'If you’re of a certain age and you meet someone who you are about to go to bed with, and that person doesn’t have a Facebook page, you may be getting a false name. It could be some kind of red flag,' he says. Yoffee points out that these judgements don't apply to older people who were already productive adults before social media became widespread. The tech news site Slashdot summed up Der Taggspiegel's story about social networking as 'not having a Facebook account could be the first sign that you are a mass murderer.' Loner: James Holmes, the accused Colorado theater shooter, does not appear to have friends and did not have a Facebook page It points out that Holmes, who is accused of killing 12 people and an unborn child and wounding 58 others at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, and Breivik, who murdered 77 people with a car bomb and mass shooting, did not use Facebook and had small online footprints. Breivik used MySpace and Holmes was reportedly on the hookup site Adult Friend Finder. Psychologist Christopher Moeller told the magazine that using Facebook has become a sign of having a healthy social network. Psychologists have noted that Holmes, along with several noted mass murderers, have lacked any real friends. And this is what the argument boils down to: It's the suspicion that not being on Facebook, which has become so normal among young adults, is a sign that you're abnormal and dysfunctional, or even dangerous, ways. Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz23osENNsD Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz23orzUQuQ Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
August 17, 201213 yr I was going to bring that up also PSsolk.... really is a clarion call as to the direction this is heading and I dont like it. I dont have a face book account and am very proud of it! I cant wait till all this nonsense blows over sincerely , a non facebook account having psychopathic anti social "suspicious person" !
August 17, 201213 yr Commercial Member I was going to bring that up also PSsolk.... really is a clarion call as to the direction this is heading and I dont like it. I dont have a face book account and am very proud of it! I cant wait till all this nonsense blows over sincerely , a non facebook account having psychopathic anti social "suspicious person" ! Yeah saw that study, just shows what kind of utter rubbish media is full of today, or maybe not only media but also society. Wonder if that whole study is truly funded by Facebook so they would get new users from people who would go with mass after reading how not using Facebook would be abnormal... Wouldn't be surprised about that seeing how badly Facebook stock price is falling. Anyways, another study shows that more active Facebook user you are more likely you are narcissistic person. I am glad that I deleted my Facebook account in time. I hope all this Facebook boom stops at some point and people will spread between bigger amount of different social sites, or even better start meeting their friends in real life again or call them.
August 17, 201213 yr Eh, I just laugh at the numbnuts who actually invested in it!!! If you lived through the dot com bust how could you POSSIBLY think it was a good investment....Accurate price is probably $6-$7!!! Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
August 17, 201213 yr Hi Farcebook nofans ! B-) Here are 4 more reasons. . . Farcebook scans conversations, chats and posts. . . http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread860452/pg1 Farcebook leaks its own code. . . http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2170620,00.asp Farcebook security lapse leaves private photos exposed. . . http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_security_lapse_private_photos.php Farcebook, a black hole for personal info. . . http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/12/1354255&from=rss Blue skies.
August 17, 201213 yr Facebook has too many users and activity to really monitor who is saying what for the most part. My usage on their is minimal and just a few vacation photo's. I spend a lot more time on AVSIM and very little time on Facebook that if anyone wants to know what I have been saying, your better off looking on the ole Hanger Chat...LOL However Facebook is required in my line of work due to it's advertising capabilities. We use it to generate new clients. It does work. Cheers Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
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