Sign in to follow this  
Dreamfly

QualityWings Avro/BAe

Recommended Posts

... we love you Günter because you're the best ...

and love requires patience ... :rolleyes:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Help AVSIM continue to serve you!
Please donate today!

Hi guys,

I hope this will still be read, but as I am new to the Forum I want to tell that there´s still Need for a BAe146 module to use with LINDA! :rolleyes:

 

I´ve been working for days now using the Tracer and Editor... but somehow I seem to be the wrong Person to get things working fine.

 

My Overhead is working pretty perfect in WIN7 using a iiyama Touchscreen Monitor, but until now

I was not able to catch the right code for the MWS caution and warning reset :mad:

 

  1. I performed a trace, found the "LUA write" and used those codes in the Editor (Syntax ok)
  2. I assigned those self made Edits in the BAe146 and saved them
  3. after running the plane I still can´t get any use of my assigned Buttons.

 

I would really be happy if anyone of you guys could give me a hint what is going wrong in my thinking!

 

 

Thanks a lot in advance!

 

Alex

 

 

 

Win7ultimate 64

Intel i7 4790K

32GB mem

2x Geforce GTX970 @ 4GB each

separate i3 CPU for Client to 6 x Saitek FIP

FSUIPC4 - licenced

Linda 1.13

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Alex

 

Welcome to the LINDA forum.  I can not make any comment on a BAe146 module as that is not my specialist area.  However, I will try to help you with your particular query.

 

LINDA is designed to work with the VRInsight MCP panels and other switch panels and joysticks that use buttons or switches.  I am not sure therefore how you are getting the overhead panel working as a touch screen.  I assume that you have your aircraft's overhead panel displayed as a separate window on the touchscreen.  If this is the case, the button pushes would operate directly with the aircraft simulation: LINDA (via FSUIPC) will not see these interactions.  The only way LINDA will see the 'button push' is if a Lvar is set by the aircraft.  The Lvars are listed in the lefthand panel of the Tracer. Once you identify which Lvar is associated with which button operation, you can write a Lua function to act on this information.  I hope that is makes sense to you.

 

Should you wish to create your own module for the BAe146 you should adapt an existing one. 

 

Of interest to me, is that you have a touch screen working alongside LINDA.  Several users have reported errors when using these devices.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for your fast Response, Scotflieger!

 

Wow, I´m a bit nervous now... being answered by a LINDA Support/Developer

and so I am Sorry, beginners don´t always provide enough and correct Information... and I didn´t expect anybody´s interest really

 

 

The Touchscreen does operate the Overhead Panel using a separate window.

It works perfect and there are no Troubles at all with Default FSX aircraft!

It also works perfect with my JustFlight BAE146 200 and 300 series.

NO ERRORS EVER EXPERIENCED USING TOUCH AND LINDA AND SPAD simultaneously!!!

 

My first (how to) Problem is to create a correct LUA function from a trace readout inside the main window, where I Need to reset the Maser warn and caution whenever valves or source powers  are switched - I have to quit those warnings via MOUSE in the main view.

can´t get that working as a button assignment :Whistle:

 

The second Problem is the fuel cutoff, which is done by the thrust Levers.

The BAe has no reversers, and when on IDLE i Need to right click a Lever which is then pulled back to cutoff posn.

So far so good: I traced the function and got an LVAR command and a LUA command at the same time and function, but None of These seem to work, neither as code , nor as text command via Editor (Syntax ok) assigned to a button...

 

Just for Info: The tail brake and wing Spoilers normally are also controlled thru a Lever which I successfully transformed into a increase/decrease button assignment after tracing the commands ...and this works, I just don´t remember how I made that

 

 

  1. When creating my new aircraft in Linda ( string found at once) I get an I/O error 183 all the time, any idea what that is? The module is created though and seems to work as far as I use Default FSX assignments.
  2. can you suggest me a "good" existing downloadable 4-engine module to transform? (FSX Default 747 can not be selected inside Default FSX)
  3. is there any more Manual than Linda v1.01 (August 2011) and Brian747´s "Don´t Panic" available? (if I could have some more Information about LVars and Luas and creating modules via the Editor I might probably succeed...
  4. I know about the MCP´s, but they just don´t "fit" into the old style BAe Cockpit - my Saiteks work well on all my desired  purposes up to now. I´m thinking about that later on the Antonov 225
  5. I LOVE THE LINDA SOFTWARE for being quite an easy way to handle hardware - I´m sure it will work fine as soon as anyone can teach me to use the Editor in the right way,
  6. and I´ve noticed the DONATE button which I will surely use when my "Baby" has come to life in full!!! I know about the Long, hard work to create Software like that (...for free) :Applause: :Applause:  :Applause:  

 

Thanks so far, I hope there are some informations you can use to help me out of my existencial crisis...

maybe I should just buy a Train sim :Yawn: 

 

Greetings from Salzburg/Austria

 

Alex

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Alex

 

Please don't be amazed by my signature claims.  I only found LINDA 9 months ago and, like you, I was amazed by the quality of the software and the capability it offers users. My development role has only been to add the ability to use the VRInsight Airbus FCU panel.  From the knowledge (and pleasure) I have gained I am only to happy to help others.

 

First, I suggest you take a good look at the latest Aerosoft Airbus or PMDG 737NGX for hints and ideas. These are massive works written by Günter Steiner that I have in a very small part updated. Any functions you can use can simply be copied to your BAE146 module and adapted.

 

For your first problem you need to identify the Lvar that corresponds to the Master Warning. Usually, it will have the value 0 for off/reset and 1 for on/set and will have a logical name like 'MasterWarning'.  You simply need a function similar to this (the syntax may not be totally correct as I am doing this from memory):

 

function MasterWarningCancel ()

    LvarSet = 'L:MasterWarning'

   if ipc.readLvar(LvarSet) == 1 then

       ipc.writeLvar(LvarSet, 0)

   end

end

 

You then need to assign this function to a button on a joystick or panel.

 

The second problem is an easy one. You don't need any LINDA functions at all. There are 2 options using either FSUIPC or LINDA.  I use a Saitek throttle quadrant which has switch that is operated when at idle. Assign the On Press and On Repeat functions to FSX: Throttle Decr. It is a good idea to assign the On Release function to FSX: Throttle close.

 

To answer your other questions:

 

I don't know what I/O Error 183 is unless the 183 refers to a line number in a module (see report in Console).

 

There is no update to the manual at present.

 

Please feel free to donate using the button. LINDA is freeware but the various aircraft and panels don't come for free.

 

Regards

 

Andrew

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Andrew,

 

thank you very much for your big help, seems that I really had a wrong way thinking the command lines :Black Eye: 

 

I will check about the Airbus mentioned, I´m not a real Boeing fan :Shame On You: 

 

But now: I use 2 Saitek TQs and all my prop planes are configured like you said, from idle back to Switch fuel off...

 

               it´s just a fact that this doesn´t work with the 146... no Chance :Cry: 

 

well, I´ll Keep on trying, maybe one day I´ll find a working solution as perfect as my touch-OHP

 

 

back to the master warning light and bell: I´ve found 6 different commands (hydr. fuel, air supply, eng.temp, lo Volt and APU overload) they all generate the MWS warning but with a different code in the Tracer.

DO I HAVE TO RESET WITH SIX DIFFERENT CODES (... =0) then?

 

Thanks so much again, your help will make me go to bed earlier tonite :LMAO: (it was 3-4am last days)

 

Regards,

 

Alex

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Alex

 

Glad I was able to cast a little light on your investigations.  How much the developer makes accessible to the user is varied. Aerosoft has made most variables (Lvars) available; it is possible that QualityWings have not. Perhaps you could contact them for more information.  In addition to the Tracer within LINDA, you may also find some information is a file in Modules folder named something like lvars.lst.

 

For the reverse thrust you need to see if the is a Lvar that is set when you click on the throttle levers.  It is all part of the hunt.

 

For your MWS it is somethings necessary to combine multiple Lvars to derive the one you want.  However, I am surprised that there is not one for such a key indication/action.

 

STOP PRESS - While typing this reply, I thought I would have a quick Google search.  Are you aware that my colleague has already published a module for the QualityWings Ultimate 146?

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/390985-qualitywings-ultimate-146-collection-module-version-10/

 

You will find there a full list of functions including the following:

 

-- ## Glareshield buttons ###############

 
function warning_light_red ()
    ipc.writeLvar("attngettr_red_button_clicked", 1)
    DspShow ("warn", "red")
end
 
function warning_light_yellow ()
    ipc.writeLvar("attngettr_yellow_button_clicked", 1)
    DspShow ("warn", "yelw")
end
 
function warning_light_both ()
    warning_light_red ()
   _sleep(300,500)
    warning_light_yellow ()
end
 
Does that help?
 
Regards
 
Andrew

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

WOW Andrew, you did my search? - How can I ever be thankful for that?

 

Great Job I´m absolutely sure... I´ll spend my day with that wonderful module now!

 

I just hope it will work, as I don´t use the QW 146, but the JustFlight 146... Well, maybe I´ll have to Change the Publisher. Recheck for downloading the QW now :yahoo:

 

... I will Keep you informed about my ongoings...

 

Once again thanks soooo much, Andrew - YOU ARE THE BEST!

 

 

Regds,

 

Alex

 

PS: sorry for the Caps/NonCaps... I don´t know how to stop that lousy behaviour of this plugin :crazy:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Andrew...

 

just for Info:

the QW module doesn´t work on the JF 146 (different commands???)

 

... I will now search for a download of the QW146.

 

But don´t worry, I´m still thankful for all the assistence you gave me! :Applause:

 

Regards,

Alex

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Alex

 

Glad to have helped. It would have been very helpful if you had opened a new thread for JustFlight 146 to avoid my confusion.

 

Andrew

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Andrew,

 

You´re right... I´m sorry for that! Hope you won´t be angry with a first-time-poster!

 

Downloaded and installed the QW 146 ultimate and...

 

:Party: WORKS PERFECT :Party:

 

So I put my JustFlight to the side meanwhile and started assigning commands with the module you recommended.

The Job develops pretty good now as everything seems to be big success...

(I decided to perform the fuel cutoffs via MouseMacro though)

 

Pointing to the OHP - Touchpanel:

 

There are some Switches not designed to work at all :Cry:  compared to my first Version,

but basically all essential Switches Show pretty fine Performance on my Touchscreen!

Just the Eng-Start-selector Rotary (1/2/3/4)  didn´t work via touch  - The Saitek Switch Panel Magnetoes selector does a perfect Job for that!

 

Next step for me: purchase a second Touch Monitor because the OHP is split into 2 sections which gives a "life-size-feeling" over my head... :Silly:

 

Once again thank you so much, I´m very very happy now!

 

Best greetings from (no snow at all) Salzburg

 

Alex

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Alex

 

I am pleased that you have things working and no I am not angry - just making a point.

 

Any problems just come back to the forum.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Alex

 

I am pleased that you have things working and no I am not angry - just making a point.

 

Any problems just come back to the forum.

Hi Andrew

 

Things work really great now - due to your excellent and friendly assistence!

 

btw: turned my OHD Monitor by 90degrees and changed in Display Settings - both OHPs work great on 24" touch NO PROBLEMS detected!

 

turning down the System now, having some beers, including one for you :drinks:

 

So happy now with my absolute fave plane (maybe I´ll start a virtual trip to Glasgow tomorrow to honour my great helper! :yahoo:

 

Of course I will stay tuned to the Forum, had my last FltSim about 20yrs ago (poor functionality those days) and just restarted my career with FSX.

 

All the best to you, THANK YOU Andrew!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this