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Bingo!!

 

Thanks Jim

 

The magic Spell....

 

SimObjectPaths.6=MyTraffic\Aircraft..

 

For future reference ,you still have to rebuild the bgl files(with the just flight tools)

and make sure it matches your older fsx cfg..and be patient eventually it will happen!

 

Now if I only have the time for it..

 

Regards

 

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Hi Paul,

 

Thought I'd just look in to check any progress. I've been trying to link Active Sky 2012 to FSX from my second computer, where I already have Flight Sim Commander and Plan G working through Wide FS. I followed the instructions in the AS2012 manual very closely for Simconnect, but it didn't work, and it completely screwed up my FSX.

 

I did an Acronis restore, and I have FSX performing better than ever now, so there is a silver lining to my near disaster. DX10 rocks, as they say!

 

I saw some advice in a forum, stating that Nvidia Inspector should be opened, a suitable profile loaded, and left running before and during any FSX session. Is this valid? I've only ever setup inspector, and left it at that.

 

Thanks again.

 

Best Wishes, Jim


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No - it's not valid, or you have a misunderstanding, Jim. Can you post the link so we can correct it?

 

You are doing it absolutely as it's supposed to be done. Fire it up, put in your settings, shut it down - that's all.

 

Real nice to hear of your good success with DX10!



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Paul,

 

Quick question regarding AA. I did a couple of tests with it and I lose between 8 and 10 FPS with AA on vs no AA. I suspect I'm pretty much maxed my setup now but I wonder if there is anything I could do to improve FPS with AA on.

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Kinda hard to say without your current fsx.cfg and NI settings, Chris. Post 'em here, and we'll see what we can do.. I'm off out for a couple of hours or so, so it'll be early this afternoon, OK? While we're at it - what are your proc speed (o/c) and your memory timings, as that can make a significant difference. Also - are you killing any external processes before you start the sim?



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I'm unpinning this post as it is getting a little too long. I have pinned another post from Paul that contains all the appropriate links. If you have a question for the 'experts' here please start a new thread. Thanks!

 

Best regards,

Jim


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Kinda hard to say without your current fsx.cfg and NI settings, Chris. Post 'em here, and we'll see what we can do.. I'm off out for a couple of hours or so, so it'll be early this afternoon, OK? While we're at it - what are your proc speed (o/c) and your memory timings, as that can make a significant difference. Also - are you killing any external processes before you start the sim?

 

Hey Paul,

 

See my FSX.CFG below:

 

 

[bufferPools] //AVSIM Mods

usepools=1

PoolSize=10485760

RejectThreshold=524288

 

[JOBSCHEDULER] //AVSIM Mods

AffinityMask=84

 

[sOUND]

AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000

SOUND=1

SOUND_QUALITY=2

SOUND_LOD=0

UISound=1

AmbientUI=0

PrimaryDevice={45B9CFC4-E870-48C2-919B-4F040506D712}

VoiceDevice={45B9CFC4-E870-48C2-919B-4F040506D712}

SOUND_FADER1=0.500000

SOUND_FADER2=0.500000

SOUND_FADER3=0.500000

SOUND_FADER4=0.500000

AmbientUIMusic=FSX01

[Display]

ChangeTime=4.000000

TransitionTime=4.000000

ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255

ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64

NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255

NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64

InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0

InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0

InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255

InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128

InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255

InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128

InfoBrakesEnable=True

InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True

InfoPauseEnable=True

InfoSlewEnable=True

InfoStallEnable=True

InfoOverspeedEnable=True

BLOOM_EFFECTS=0

SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1

TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=40

UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30

WideViewAspect=True

[Main]

FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.15

User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter

SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes

SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft

SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles

SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats

SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals

SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc

HideMenuNormal=0

HideMenuFullscreen=1

ProcSpeed=6764

PerfBucket=5

Location=490,67,1530,845,\\.\DISPLAY1

Maximized=2

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IMAGE_QUALITY=1

QUICKTIPS=1

PANEL_OPACITY=100

PANEL_MASKING=1

PANEL_STRETCHING=1

UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0

DEFAULT_VIEW=1

[Weather]

WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1

MinGustTime=10

MaxGustTime=500

MinGustRampSpeed=1

MaxGustRampSpeed=200

MinVarTime=5

MaxVarTime=50

MinVarRampSpeed=10

MaxVarRampSpeed=75

TurbulenceScale=1.000000

WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com

WeatherServerPort=80

WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0

AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1

DynamicWeather=2

DownloadWindsAloft=0

DisableTurbulence=0

CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=8

DETAILED_CLOUDS=1

CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=5

THERMAL_VISUALS=0

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Mode=1440x900x32

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AntiAlias=1

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KBDELEV=64

KBDRUD=64

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Latitude=1,1

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Altitude=1,3

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AirSpeed=1,5

WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6

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FrameRate=1,1

LockedFrameRate=1,2

GForce=1,3

FuelPercentage=1,4

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Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6

FrameRate=2,1

LockedFrameRate=2,2

GForce=2,3

FuelPercentage=2,4

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Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

[slewTextInfo.2]

FrameRate=1,1

LockedFrameRate=1,2

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Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

FrameRate=2,1

LockedFrameRate=2,2

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LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000

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RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000

MaxHeadAngle=5.000000

MaxHeadOffset=0.300000

HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000

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VirtualCopilotActive=0

[GRAPHICS]

MultiSamplesPerPixel=4

MultiSampleQuality=8

D3D10=1

HIGHMEMFIX=1

ForceWindowedVsync=1 //avsim

SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693500672

TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024

NUM_LIGHTS=8

AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=0

AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1

COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1

LANDING_LIGHTS=0

AC_SELF_SHADOW=0

EFFECTS_QUALITY=2

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TEXTURE_QUALITY=3

IMAGE_QUALITY=0

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Text_Scroll=0

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D3D10=0

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PageID=1

OpenATCOnCreate=0

SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0

PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0

PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1

Map_Orientation=2

ShowAllACPaintSchemes=1

SelectAircraftManufacturer=All

SelectAircraftPublisher=RealAir

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ShowATCText=1

COMM_MSG_NONE_COLOR=FFFFFFFF

COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=FFB6FFB6

COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=FFFFD21B

COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=FF00FF00

COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=FFFF7840

AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1

UsePilotVoice=1

PilotVoice=0

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CycleSetting=0

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LENSFLARE=0

DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1

IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=4

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AirlineDensity=0

GADensity=0

FreewayDensity=0

ShipsAndFerriesDensity=5

LeisureBoatsDensity=0

IFROnly=0

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MESH_COMPLEXITY=80

MESH_RESOLUTION=24

TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=28

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ShowUserLabel=0

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ShowLabelTailNumber=0

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Torque=0.000000

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TrueAirspeed=False

AutoCoord=True

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StressDamage=False

GEffect=False

ManualLights=True

GyroDrift=True

CrashWithDyn=False

CrashDetection=False

AutoTrim=False

AllowEngineDamage=False

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SYSCLOCK=1

[sTARTUP]

DEMO=0

SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1

STARTUP_DEMO=

LoadWindow=1

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COUNTRY=

STATE=

CITY=

GTL_BUTTON=1277

[Misc]

Com_Rate=7

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ControlsFirstRun=0

HomePageFirstRun=0

[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA Quadro FX 880M.0.0]

Mode=1440x900x32

Anisotropic=1

AntiAlias=1

 

 

RAM is PC3-10600 (667MHz)

 

CPU is a mobile I7-820 at 1.7GHz with turboboost up to 2.8GHz

 

I am using Tune-Up Utilities to kill as many services as I can.

 

I've been testing in Orbx's PNW with Orbx's KHQM airport and the Carenado C182T, RealAir Duke or Legacy and Rex Essentials with clouds at 1024X1024. Currently, I can have clouds or AA but not both. If I choose simple clouds in FSX, performance is fine but simple clouds are not very nice.

 

Please see NI config below:

 

nvidiaInspector_zps862ad6ea.png

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Coupla things might be of some help to you, Chris.

Here's a great article, found by RodO - The Family Man

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/anti-aliasing-nvidia-geforce-amd-radeon,2868.html

 

You'll still be reading this one at two in the morning... :lol:

 

Is there any reason you're not using the 1/2Refresh Rate to control vsync?

 

Make the FFTF = 0.1

Raise the TBM to 80

Mesh res=23 You won't notice the difference

Ships, etc = 0

 

and that's about it, my friend..



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Coupla things might be of some help to you, Chris.

Here's a great article, found by RodO - The Family Man

 

http://www.tomshardw...adeon,2868.html

 

You'll still be reading this one at two in the morning... :lol:

 

Is there any reason you're not using the 1/2Refresh Rate to control vsync?

 

Make the FFTF = 0.1

Raise the TBM to 80

Mesh res=23 You won't notice the difference

Ships, etc = 0

 

and that's about it, my friend..

 

I've been reading that document and re-reading it for a little while now, lots to digest B) . I've been playing around with NI all day hoping to improve things so I probably changed the Vsync setting by accident.

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See my FSX.CFG below

 

Hi Chris,

 

You have two duplicate Display entries in your config:

 

[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA Quadro FX 880M.0.0]

Mode=1440x900x32

Anisotropic=1

AntiAlias=1

 

Should only have one since you have just one monitor on your laptop. Just delete one of them. In the Graphics section you have two entries for DX10 Preview. One entry says DX10 Preview is turned off: D3D10=0. The other one says it is turned on: D3D10=1. Under display, turn off WideViewAspect=True by changing True to False. You do not have a widescreen monitor. You have ForceWindowedVsync=1 enabled in the Graphics section. Be aware this only works in Windowed mode (according to Word Not Allowed's doc). DX10 Preview works best in full screen mode. I personally do not see the value of this setting but the setting is there if you want to fly in Windowed mode. Just some observations.

 

Best regards,

Jim


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Hi Chris,

 

You have two duplicate Display entries in your config:

 

[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA Quadro FX 880M.0.0]

Mode=1440x900x32

Anisotropic=1

AntiAlias=1

 

Should only have one since you have just one monitor on your laptop. Just delete one of them. In the Graphics section you have two entries for DX10 Preview. One entry says DX10 Preview is turned off: D3D10=0. The other one says it is turned on: D3D10=1. Under display, turn off WideViewAspect=True by changing True to False. You do not have a widescreen monitor. You have ForceWindowedVsync=1 enabled in the Graphics section. Be aware this only works in Windowed mode (according to Word Not Allowed's doc). DX10 Preview works best in full screen mode. I personally do not see the value of this setting but the setting is there if you want to fly in Windowed mode. Just some observations.

 

Best regards,

Jim

 

Jim,

 

All I can say is holy $%^#. Massive difference in performance with your suggestions. I didn't notice the duplicate entries for the display card at all nor did I see the duplicate entries for D3D10. I did my usual test around KHQM and KPAE and I'm really happy with the results. FPS is in the high teens to low 20's and I only have the occasional stutter. I didn't know DX10 Preview worked best in full-screen mode so maybe Paul could add that tip to the "How To" document as I can't recall seeing it in there.

 

Many thanks for the help!!

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Hi Chris,

 

Thanks. Think the 'fixes' are just a placebo but good you are seeing some performance gains. With your laptop, I don't think you'll see much more in performance. In regards to Anti-aliasing in your NI config, try lowering the SS to 2x Sparse Grid. This NI setting is a frame rate killer. According to Word Not Allowed's guide, 4x Sparse Grid SuperSampling completely reduces shimmering but reduces performance and 2xSparse Grid SS has some shimmering but increases performance. When you go out and but that fancy i7 3770K overclocked to 4.8GHz with a 680GTX and super fast memory, you can move up to 4x's or even higher. Under Texture Filtering, for AF Filtering, this should be set to User Defined/Off as you have 16X's enabled. You have it Application Controlled. This is a performance killer too and you might think about cutting that in half or even turning it off. With it enabled already in FSX, you are not going to see any change. This setting works better in DX9.

 

Paul recommends the TBM be raised to 80 and that might work but it is a performance killer too. Just be aware. Try it both ways. If it doesn't do anything for you as far as performance or image quality, bring it back down to the default of 40. I'm glad to see you have modest scenery settings. Your LOD of 3.5 is a good compromise for performance. You can only see so far out in front of your aircraft anyway. With a 3.5 setting you'll see nice and clear quality textures immediately around your aircraft but you won't be able to see the Eagle flying 60 miles away....

 

Best regards,

Jim


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OK just about to jump into the DX10 melee but have a question regarding which version of the "How to" document to use.

I visitied this thread a short while back and downloaded the pdf. It shows "rev4 Sept 2012" on the first page.

Upon revisiting this thread today, I noticed a new sticky pinned to the top of the forum dated 5th October.

Am I correct in assuming that the pdf downloaded from that sticky today is a later more up to date version than the one I have already? Only it does not have any revision information.

 

Many thanks in advance for the clarification and kind regards

 

Stuart

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Yep - it gets updated as new or better info comes in, Stuart - and "welcome" to the adventure, however it may turn out!!

 

Both the pdf and the doc are the same. I have just put in a link to Tom's Hardware, regarding RodO's mention of an AA article which is the best article I have ever read on this subject.

 

All the Best,

 

pj



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Need a little help here, just tried going thru the doc and Inspector setting up all as outlined in Steves DX10 doc, however my FSX now looks terrible, I've been thru Steves read me several times, and the DX10 Notes, nothing helps, gotta be doing something big time wrong here, any help would be appreciated.

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