September 13, 201213 yr Hi, Tomorrow I will buy a new computer. I need to choose a new CPU, motherboard, and VGA. Computer will be used only for FSX flight simulation. No other games, except perhaps Prepar3D or X-Plane 10 in a future. I've decided for a i7 2700K, due a better overclocking temperatures and an Z77 motherboard. I've read a lot about motherboards info but I need to decide today wich moterboard I'll buy. Candidates: ASUS (I'm a happy Asus user) Sabertooth Z77 Maximus V Gene P8Z77-V Pro Perhaps some Gigabytes: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Asrock perhaps is a good choice, but I not have confidence with this brand. I'm having a hard time deciding between those motherboards. What do you think about this? ¿Another candidates? I need to overclok the 2700K between 4.5-5GHz and use a 2133 or 2400 RAM (2x8Gb) Anether question: I'm thinking in a new VGA. Asus GTX660Ti OC2 seems a good choice, but GTX670DCII is only 80€ more expensive. Really is a significative difference in frame rates on FSX. ¿Anpther good choice? Thanks, Austin
September 13, 201213 yr I would go for the Maximus V Gene if you can afford it. Also, you are going to need some cooling for your CPU if you plan to overclock it. A Corsair H80 or H100 will be needed to reach 4.4-4.8GHZ.
September 13, 201213 yr Author Thanks Ben, I think Maximus V Gene will be a good choice, but saberttoth is a great temptation... And perhaps an P8Z77-V Pro is more modern motherboard. I don't know. I've read Maximus V Gene has some stutters issues when using 2 graphics cards.... Perhaps is not true. I've an Cooler Master 2120 Hyper EVO air cooling system. In first instance I will try to reach 4.5 with this, if possible. In future, perhaps I will buy an H80 or H100 to reach upper clock speeds. I think 4.5GHz is an reaseonable speed with and air cooled 2700K. No problem with lower speeds. I've time to buy another cooling system in future and increase clock speed. Austin
September 13, 201213 yr Author Thanks Jete, I't seems a great board, but I have not confidence with MSI and Asrock brands. Perhaps would be a good choice, but i've dudes about these brands. I think in Asus, Gibabyte terms. But i'm lost in a lot of models: g.sniper.3, sabertooth, maximus V gene (MV formula is out of my economy)..... Regards, Austin
September 13, 201213 yr MVG is the best OCing board I've ever owned, and I've owned many. I can't speak to any issues with SLI/CF though.
September 13, 201213 yr Author MVG is the best OCing board I've ever owned, and I've owned many. I can't speak to any issues with SLI/CF though. I've now an Crosshair IV Formula and is too the best board I've owned. Unfortunately, FSX is not a good friend of an AMD Phenom 1090T. Then, the question is between: Maximus V Gene, GA-Z77X-UP5 TH, and Sabertooth. ¿Perhaps MVG is a bit better for overclock than Sabertooth? Maximus V formula is to much expensive. There are a real perfomance diference between the new GTX660Ti and GTX670Ti? Regards, Austin
September 13, 201213 yr I was considering Asus P8Z77-V LE Sam. Waiting for the 64-bit PSION Flightsim for ZX-Spectrum ////
September 13, 201213 yr I've now an Crosshair IV Formula and is too the best board I've owned. Unfortunately, FSX is not a good friend of an AMD Phenom 1090T. Then, the question is between: Maximus V Gene, GA-Z77X-UP5 TH, and Sabertooth. ¿Perhaps MVG is a bit better for overclock than Sabertooth? Maximus V formula is to much expensive. There are a real perfomance diference between the new GTX660Ti and GTX670Ti? Regards, Austin The Maximus V line is as good as it gets when it comes to overclocking, they also have the best support for the widest variety of enthusiast RAM choices. Example: I have now built several system based on the Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 board, which is a very nice board especially for the price. However, it cannot cope with booting at high RAM speeds, and often will startup in "failsafe" mode without an overclock or higher RAM speeds applied. My MVG board has no such problem, it just plain works at whatever speed your RAM is rated for (assuming your chip's IMC can handle it, of course).
September 13, 201213 yr Author I was considering Asus P8Z77-V LE It's a cheap option. I don't know how capable is this board for overclocking, specially al high RAM speeds. I'm considering now to buy a MVG with a 2500K and buy a GTX670 & better RAM with money difference. Perhaps a little expensi mother alternative, like Gigabyte? MVG is really a big tempation. Sabertooth too. -P Regards, Austin
September 14, 201213 yr Commercial Member What about the P8Z77-V Deluxe? It's pricey, but worth it Aamir Thacker
September 14, 201213 yr I hope you are aware of the fact that Maximus V Gene is a micro ATX board. I think the Sabertooth is the best mobo to overclock, from what I've read on its reviews. I'll get the Maximus V Formula myself though.
September 14, 201213 yr Author hope you are aware of the fact that Maximus V Gene is a micro ATX board. I think the Sabertooth is the best mobo to overclock, from what I've read on its reviews. I'll get the Maximus V Formula myself though. Yes, MVG it's a micro ATX, but this is not a problem for me due I use only one graphic card, with no SLI or Crossfire. I like Sabertooth very very much. Of fact, it was my first choice. But after a read a lot of information and reviews, I have seen it's a bit more "special" with very high speed RAM's. I don't now if this question is true or not, but I've seen any review with any issue starting system using 2133-2400 RAM, Certainly, the Maximus V Gene is a rare board. It's very little. I like big motherboards, but of fact, this is not an important trouble for me, due I don't need to use two graphic cards. MV Formula is to much expensive for me. I buyed a few minutes ago, a Maximus V Gene, an i5 2500K and an Asus GTX670 Direct CUII. I think FSX will run smoothly with this hardware. Perhaps an 2600K/2700K will be better, but I think this 2500K with a 4.5GHz overclock will run FSX good. ¿Do you thik it's a good hardware choice? I'm in time to change any component. I prefer 2700K, but if FSX not use Hypetreading, ¿The only difference between 2500K and 2700K is the 200MHZ speed? I don't knoy if the 2Mb of cache it's an important question in FSX. My computer is for FSX exclusive use. Regards. Austin
September 14, 201213 yr I buyed a few minutes ago, a Maximus V Gene, an i5 2500K and an Asus GTX670 Direct CUII. I think FSX will run smoothly with this hardware. Perhaps an 2600K/2700K will be better, but I think this 2500K with a 4.5GHz overclock will run FSX good. ¿Do you thik it's a good hardware choice? I'm in time to change any component. I prefer 2700K, but if FSX not use Hypetreading, ¿The only difference between 2500K and 2700K is the 200MHZ speed? I don't knoy if the 2Mb of cache it's an important question in FSX. My computer is for FSX exclusive use. What you bought is fine, it should run very well, so as long as you are fine with the mATX mobo, don't change anything.
September 14, 201213 yr Author What you bought is fine, it should run very well, so as long as you are fine with the mATX mobo, don't change anything. Thanks Santi, I was concerned with my choice, because I do not like to be wrong with the choice of components. I love Sabertooth. It's beautiful and was my first choice. I hesitate to change it by maximus V Gene. There are any important difference between these two motherboards? Size appart, of course. -P There is some other problem with that is micro ATX board, apart from space for graphics cards? I prefer a large motherboard, but I think I really do not need that extra space. Perhaps I'm wrong. Regards, Austin
September 14, 201213 yr Author Some RAM specs: Maximus V Gene: 4 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 2800(O.C.)/2666(O.C.)/2600(O.C.)/2400(O.C.)/2200(O.C.)/2133(O.C.)/2000(O.C.)/1866(O.C.)/1600/1333 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory Dual Channel Memory Architecture Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) * Hyper DIMM support is subject to the physical characteristics of individual CPUs. Sabertooth: 4 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 1866/1600/1333 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory Dual Channel Memory Architecture Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) * Hyper DIMM support is subject to the physical characteristics of individual CPUs. It seems ths Maximus V Gene it's a bit better with high end RAM. I don't now what tipe of RAM I'll use, but with MVG I have the possibilities of use 2800 if I need it. Insane overclock? :diablo: Perhaps the best mother would be a "mix" between these two motheboards. A gene V with ATX size and 3 PCIe. No, Maximus V Formula is too much expensive -P Regards, Austin
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