November 30, 201213 yr Hello All Could somebody kindly tell me the exact procedure for using TOGA for takeoff in FS9 .Is the TOGA method implemented well in Fs9? I have been trying it for takeoff recently (as opposed to the 'normal' method of using manual throttle control as I have for years) The results I am getting are rather less than satisfying. I either end up with excessive speeds way above(before I can control it) the 250 below ten thousand and taking an age before normal autothrottle operation brings the speed back down to a acceptable levels again. I have also noticed that takeoff itself can be quite difficult as well .For instance I was using a PA Airbus 319 last night ,and trying the TOGA method of takeoff I was belting down the runway at 170 plus kts and was unable to get airborne (normally 140 145 150 ish using manual throttle control sees me of the ground easily. So I am obviously getting something wrong. AND! question two ....using the project Airbus Bus what should my flap settings be on takeoff. Using manual throttle control I normally set at ten (sometimes 13 degrees) and that has always been fine for a satisfactory takeoff ,but as I mentioned above using 13 degrees last night AND trying the TOGA method saw my runway speed well in excess of 170 kts ,and in fact I ran out of runway and only eventually got airborne after travelling for some distance across open country beyond the runway. I believe the Airbus is one of these aircraft that has fly by wire type controls and perhaps when using the TOGA takeoff method needs different flap settings to that used in my 'normal' manual throttle control method.(No Flaps??) Anyways That correct TOGA takeoff procedure would be much appreciated please . cheers Andy
November 30, 201213 yr If you are using TOGA without any derate/assumed temperature thrust you are going to to get max t/o thrust. Unnecessary. So if your a/c has an FMC you need to derate the thrust taking into consideration the runway; temperature and weather; and a/c weight. Peter Schluter
November 30, 201213 yr Author If you are using TOGA without any derate/assumed temperature thrust you are going to to get max t/o thrust. Unnecessary. So if your a/c has an FMC you need to derate the thrust taking into consideration the runway; temperature and weather; and a/c weight. Thanks for your reply. No fancy stuff on my aircraft. Just a standard PA Airbus with Ken Mitchell's panel. Perhaps that is the problem. cheers Andy
November 30, 201213 yr In that case you are better off using the "old" method of manually setting the throttles. If you do a few tests with different load weights you can come up with a rough idea of what the best setting is. Peter Schluter
December 1, 201213 yr Author In that case you are better off using the "old" method of manually setting the throttles. If you do a few tests with different load weights you can come up with a rough idea of what the best setting is. OK Thanks for that. I will stick with the old method then. I only wanted to try the TOGA takeoff as I read or heard somewhere that that is what most passenger jet aircraft do ,so wanted to get the hang of it ,but it seems as though I will need a more complex sim plane to manage that correctly. cheers again Andy
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