Windows 8 - Joystick Megathread problem.

[Chris Balint 0]

After having no problems with my joystick after restoring back to before REX I tried installing MCE and my joystick disappeared again after a short time. So there is something there that doesn't like an external program having acess to FSX.

 

Next time I'm going to remove FSUIPC4 and install REX and see what happens.

[Zigarten 6]

I didn't go through all the pages (wow!) so I apologize if this has been suggested; but I have Eclipse Yoke that I've gotten working 100%. Without FSUPIC, which I had anyway.

 

Control Panel ->
Power Options ->
Change Plan Settings ->
Change Advanced Plan Settings -> // A blue text link on the Change Plan Settings dialog
USB Settings ->
USB Selective Suspend Settings ->
Setting: Disabled <---toggle.

 

Gord

 

credit:ch-manager Bob

[himynameistrev 24]

I didn't go through all the pages (wow!) so I apologize if this has been suggested; but I have Eclipse Yoke that I've gotten working 100%. Without FSUPIC, which I had anyway.

 

Control Panel ->

Power Options ->

Change Plan Settings ->

Change Advanced Plan Settings -> // A blue text link on the Change Plan Settings dialog

USB Settings ->

USB Selective Suspend Settings ->

Setting: Disabled <---toggle.

 

Gord

 

credit:ch-manager Bob

 

This has been suggested dozens of times, has not been a permanent fix. How many times have you flown without a disconnect? 

[Zigarten 6]

It has never disconnected since.

 

I tried the Dawson software (nightmare)

The don't lose your stick tool from Germany

the USB power save in device manager. 

 

Nothing.

 

Just to be clear, this is not the power saving option that I've seen listed here, I tried that too. 

 

Now it's completely fine.

[flyingpicket 7]

I just want to bookend my posts on this subject. I registered my joystick with FSUIPC and disabled flight controllers in FSX and it *seems* to have solved the problem. I shall see...

 

Will.

[deetee 164]

I didn't go through all the pages (wow!) so I apologize if this has been suggested; but I have Eclipse Yoke that I've gotten working 100%. Without FSUPIC, which I had anyway.

 

Control Panel ->

 

Power Options ->

 

Change Plan Settings ->

 

Change Advanced Plan Settings -> // A blue text link on the Change Plan Settings dialog

 

USB Settings ->

 

USB Selective Suspend Settings ->

 

Setting: Disabled <---toggle.

 

Gord

 

credit:ch-manager Bob

Hi, are you saying that in Windows 8 USB Selective Suspend is enabled by default? Pretty sure in W7 it's the opposite. Is this a definite fix then?

 

Thanks

[Julian Roschlau 15]

Hi, are you saying that in Windows 8 USB Selective Suspend is enabled by default? Pretty sure in W7 it's the opposite. Is this a definite fix then?Thanks

It is enabled by default, at least it was on my system.

Disabling it did not solve the problem for me. So no, sorry...it's not a definite fix. :(

[Zigarten 6]

It was enabled on my system as well.  I've never had a disconnect on my set up since, I wish it was a definite fix, but I guess sadly, no.

[Jude Bradley 659]

Sadly,it will come down to Microsoft to provide a real fix.

All the other suggestions are just workarounds.

[Julian Roschlau 15]

Has the issue been brought to Microsoft's attention? I mean REALLY brought to their attention?

The problem is, it seems to only occur in FSX...so don't expect any fixes from them

[Jude Bradley 659]

Only to 1/2  level support.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-hardware/unable-to-use-the-joystick-while-playing-fsx-on/1de533c3-08d3-4ae7-850a-cde2b76122ca

[Paul99 0]

Only to 1/2  level support.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-hardware/unable-to-use-the-joystick-while-playing-fsx-on/1de533c3-08d3-4ae7-850a-cde2b76122ca

 

Have ALL OF US added our 2 cents worth to this microsoft thread ? Maybe we should.

[Julian Roschlau 15]

Have ALL OF US added our 2 cents worth to this microsoft thread ? Maybe we should.

I did that today! We all should do it. It's worth a try.

[jabloomf1230 2,445]

Has the issue been brought to Microsoft's attention? I mean REALLY brought to their attention?

The problem is, it seems to only occur in FSX...so don't expect any fixes from them

If you Google the issue, you will see that the problem is limited to Windows 8 and a few programs that use joysticks. FSX is the most common, but P3D and X-Plane also have been reported with problems, along with some older video games. FSX does seem to be the worst though, probably because of the variety of joystick hardware that is being used. In FSX and P3D, the joystick just becomes unresponsive after about 20-30 minutes. In X-Plane, the joystick is reported as "unregistered". Before this post generates a lot of responses, it doesn't happen to everyone. Some people are lucky, I guess. I'm speculating that many of the Saitek-related issues are because there haven't been any new drivers since 2011, for most of their joystick line. But it has nothing to do with the brand of hardware, because you can get the same behavior with an XBox 360 wired controller and FSX.

 

The only 100% bulletproof workaround for FSX is to manage your joystick with FSUIPC. And I seriously doubt that Microsoft has any interest in fixing this problem. It is the least of their worries with Windows 8.

[Julian Roschlau 15]

If you Google the issue, you will see that the problem is limited to Windows 8 and a few programs that use joysticks. FSX is the most common, but P3D and X-Plane also have been reported with problems, along with some older video games. FSX does seem to be the worst though, probably because of the variety of joystick hardware that is being used. In FSX and P3D, the joystick just becomes unresponsive after about 20-30 minutes. In X-Plane, the joystick is reported as "unregistered". Before this post generates a lot of responses, it doesn't happen to everyone. Some people are lucky, I guess. I'm speculating that many of the Saitek-related issues are because there haven't been any new drivers since 2011, for most of their joystick line. But it has nothing to do with the brand of hardware, because you can get the same behavior with an XBox 360 wired controller and FSX.

 

The only 100% bulletproof workaround for FSX is to manage your joystick with FSUIPC. And I seriously doubt that Microsoft has any interest in fixing this problem. It is the least of their worries with Windows 8.

You're probably right :(

FSUIPC is not a 100% bulletproof workaround though. Doesn't work for me and some other users. Maybe I am just too stupid to set it up properly.

Would anyone of you (who got it working) maybe post a little tutorial? Would be greatly appreciated.