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Thanks! FYI I did not notice any problems with the blurry ground textures though, and I finally made my first smooth landing since I used windows 8 (-89fpm) Thank you to the team at SkyPilot!

 

Anyways, how do I use the "App path"? I'm confused with the documents saying "exe.xml" files. Most of the addons are either scenery (.bgl) or .dll, not .exe or .xml

LOD will have an affect on blurries - we are running it at a high (7.5) setting.

 

APP Paths are for any addon programs like HiFi's ASN.  Check out the readme for best results.

 

Regards

 

Jim Allen

SkyPilot Software

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LOD will have an affect on blurries - we are running it at a high (7.5) setting.

 

APP Paths are for any addon programs like HiFi's ASN.  Check out the readme for best results.

 

Regards

 

Jim Allen

SkyPilot Software

Finally, FSXAssist started to not work for once. The "controller engaged" button does not mean anything, and the controller is gone during taxi to the gate. For the first time. Don't know if it is gonna get worse (I did not reset flight, and this is the first flight)

 

Changing aircraft will cause this problem, as well as changing scenery settings, etc. If that loading screen comes up (not the blue one), will FSXAssist still work?

 

 

 

Posted 01 November 2014 - 08:36 AM

'dmiannay', on 31 Oct 2014 - 05:31 AM, said:

BTW, 6 complete flights now with no joystick issues at all.  I'm now about 95% sure they fixed it.

 

 

After a total of 10 complete flights and an 11th in process with the PMDG T7, REX, and Ultimate Traffic my joystick remains stable and connected.  No anomalies at all... just rock solid performance.  

 

It's time to claim victory with Win10TP.  I am very glad I can fly FSX now without all the disappointing disconnects.  This may be a fluke affecting only me, but I'll take it!

 

 I wish all the rest of you success with this.

 

I'm losing patience, I'm gonna use Windows 10 TP for the sake of FSX. How do I reinstall Windows 8 afterwards (not gonna buy another hard disk for $50 for the sake of this). They said 

Warning

  • Creating a recovery drive will erase anything already stored on your USB flash drive. Use an empty USB flash drive or make sure to transfer any important data from your USB flash drive to another storage device before using it to create a USB recovery drive.

And do I need to reinstall FSX if I go back to Windows 8?

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Well, It happened again. I'm afraid I have to call that 30 day policy into place if it happens again. (This time round I did not reset the flight or change aircraft...) Next test will be from Cape Town the Dubai (9 hours)

 

Time for Windows 10 TP (another $30 gone, thanks to microsoft trying to wipe out everything in my current drive if I use it)

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Well, It happened again. I'm afraid I have to call that 30 day policy into place if it happens again. (This time round I did not reset the flight or change aircraft...) Next test will be from Cape Town the Dubai (9 hours)

 

Time for Windows 10 TP (another $30 gone, thanks to microsoft trying to wipe out everything in my current drive if I use it)

Np on the refund.  Just email us at the support link below.

 

Regards

 

Jim Allen

SkyPilot Software

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Np on the refund.  Just email us at the support link below.

 

Regards

 

Jim Allen

SkyPilot Software

Maybe not, I was wondering if the Joystick Disconnect after Parking (normally after 1 hour) would count... It does disconnect if I start a new flight (np for me, I could just restart FSX)

 

Thought of doing one last test flight (Same flight, but clicked "reset" once)

 

P.S If FSXAssist shows 'FSX is Restarting', then is FSXAssist connected to FSX?

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No disconnects! (even though I reset the flight thrice)

Seems to disconnect very randomly. (maybe the EnumerationRetryCount value did matter after all...)

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Same disconnect Problem over here...

 

Windows 8.1, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, FSX, Dual Displays (Monitors)

 

No solution yet ?

Good, you use the same joystick as me (more relevant). However, I don't use 2 monitors (probably does not matter)

 

First, delete those registry files as I said on page 54

Then, buy FSXAssist (no other way, but if it works, its worth it) It worked for me!

 

Alternatively, you can use Windows 10 Technical Preview (a complicated process where you have to backup your Windows disc etc.). dmiannay has tested it out, and it worked for him (see pages 53 to 56)

 

If you use FSXAssist, make sure to restart FSX after EVERY flight. If not, FSXAssist would not work for the subsequent flights.

 

Hope this works!

 

 

I'm doing another test flight (2 flights in a row! Dubai-Singapore-Brussels). See if FSXAssist works. If it does, success!

 

I tried doing it once but I aborted takeoff (joystick fails at 110 knots)

 

UPDATE: knew it wouldn't work. Restarting FSX...

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Thankx for the tips,

 

will take a look at FSAssist but sure not installing Windows 10 Preview

 

btw:  Joystick sometimes re-connects after a random couple of minutes  

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Thankx for the tips,

 

will take a look at FSAssist but sure not installing Windows 10 Preview

 

btw:  Joystick sometimes re-connects after a random couple of minutes  

If you want solid joystick performance, don't install FSXAssist. It sometimes will still fail, like my Singapore-Brussels test flight. Only option: Windows 10 Technical Preview. (Which I will not care about those complicated stuff)

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Thankx for the tips,

 

will take a look at FSAssist but sure not installing Windows 10 Preview

 

btw:  Joystick sometimes re-connects after a random couple of minutes  

I found out a fix (no test flight, but it should work)

 

Connect Controller using FSUIPC instead of using FSX. Video here (its expensive but worth it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRGPNVtf2Cw

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A combination of running FSXAssist and assigning the Saitek X52 through FSUIPC has kept this problem from annoying me over the past couple of months. It seems it can be different between each user but this is best combination to have working controls while running Windows 8. 

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A combination of running FSXAssist and assigning the Saitek X52 through FSUIPC has kept this problem from annoying me over the past couple of months. It seems it can be different between each user but this is best combination to have working controls while running Windows 8. 

Exactly what i'm doing now.

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I have switched to P3D since in P3D I don't have this problem anymore but i still have the PMDG777-200/300 and I would like to fly it so I try everything.

I have FSUIPC but FSUIPC uses the same things as FSX to connect to the operating system so i don't see why it should help.

What I have found is that always that I alt-tab without the sim being paused, it automatically loses connection and I haven't been able to have it back. However, I have been trying to pause it THEN do alt-tab, return again and unpause and it keeps it connected! I have tested this not extensively, tomorrow I will try again to see if it is consistent or not. I am running FSX as administrator, with Windows 7 compatibility in Win 8 Pro 64 bits.

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I have switched to P3D since in P3D I don't have this problem anymore but i still have the PMDG777-200/300 and I would like to fly it so I try everything.

I have FSUIPC but FSUIPC uses the same things as FSX to connect to the operating system so i don't see why it should help.

What I have found is that always that I alt-tab without the sim being paused, it automatically loses connection and I haven't been able to have it back. However, I have been trying to pause it THEN do alt-tab, return again and unpause and it keeps it connected! I have tested this not extensively, tomorrow I will try again to see if it is consistent or not. I am running FSX as administrator, with Windows 7 compatibility in Win 8 Pro 64 bits.

 

Pete Dowson the creator of FSUIPC has even said on his forums he doesn't understand why the tool is able to keep the stick connected yet FSX can't.  I'm guessing FSX just ignores controllers after startup so if you're dropped at some point it never picks it back up but FSUIPC on the other hand is just detecting all the time or something and picks it back up.  Very rarely I'll hear the USB "ding" that something reconnected and that happened to me today while in the sim.  I looked over and noticed the MFD display on my X52 had re-set and was showing GMT time which tells me windows had totally dropped the stick and re-enabled it (could be my stick going bad, it's one of the original X52's and is about 10 years old now).  However, FSX didn't even flinch as far as I still had full joystick capability.  My stick is fully configured via FSUIPC right now.

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I say that because I lose the connection even with FSUIPC. But pausing, then, alt-tabbing, has worked for me so far. 

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Can anyone please confirm this is an FSX only issue? I might try go back to FS2004 if I'm entirely sure that this problem won't occur on FS9.

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I run Win7 and don't have this issue, but I did stumble across this, and wonder if anyone has tried it for the joystick disconnect problem.  I note that my joysticks have dual entries in Device Manager for both HID controller and USB Input device...this registry setting is on the USB Input Device line.

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2900614/en-us

 

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That's been mentioned before, but thanks anyway. The trouble is that the USB devices is not "suspended". It is still visible in the Windows 8 calibration app. It just disappears from the sim. Power management seems to only cure a small number of joystick dropouts in Win 8. What's left is probably a combination of joystick driver issues and a general flaw in Windows 8. 

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So has anyone on this megathread actually solved the issue? Because I don't quite have the time to look through 57 pages of forum posts. :/

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It can't be "solved", since it's an incompatibility between certain joystick drivers and Win 8. Here's my take, but you probably should still skim through the thread:

 

1. Some people get relief by changing the power settings on their USB hubs and devices so that Windows doesn't try to shut them down when Inactive.

 

2. A considerably larger number of people use FSUIPC to control their joystick and that works for some unknown reason.

 

3. P3d 2.4 will still stop displaying the joystick setting in its UI, but the joystick keeps working.

 

4. My experience with FSX SE is that I haven't lost my joystick yet, but time will tell. Most people using FSX know better than to use Win 8 though.

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I tried all the things given as solutions except Steam. Nothing consistent.

 

Created a new dual boot system with 7 & 8.1 and that works flawless.

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I have the same problem.

My joystick is configured through FSUIPC and disabled in P3D.

However my joystick stops working mid-flight even though it's still alive in the Game Controllers config of Win 8.1.

I can't get the joystick to reconnect and have to restart P3D to get it working. :mellow:

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Can anyone please confirm this is an FSX only issue? I might try go back to FS2004 if I'm entirely sure that this problem won't occur on FS9.

It's not i experience it in ARMA 3 and DCS also

 

 

Joystick: Topgun afterburner

I experience the same problems only i experience them also in ARMA 3 and DCS.

I called microsoft who after many hard words about how this is a broken product and i need to give them the opertunity to fix it within reasonable time and otherwise i want my money back. They offered a few solutions: A windows support team FOR 85 EURO's, with no garanty they can fix it. Or the email adress of microsoft flight: microsoftflight@microsoft.com .

 

ofcourse it is a windows problem so they can't help. However they're still working on other games so it is not a dead adress. And i think they can put more pressure on microsoft than we can so maybe all emailling that adress with the same line as me: I called microsoft <the problem> and they directed me to this adress. maybe if we all do that we can create pressure for microsoft to fix this.

 

Recently i've bought it on steam and gues what it works now. No more disconnects. Personally i think this is a conspiracy of steam and windows to make us all buy in to the DLC fest that will happen with steam. I usually don't think this way but since this is a 3 year old problem almost and the solution comes with steam i pretty much don't think there is another explanation if there isn't any other solution. 

 

Paying 1000's of euro's to get a nice sim and get screwed by windows with a easy fix issue since they know where it comes from.

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It's not i experience it in ARMA 3 and DCS also

Thanks, I've already downgraded to Win 7 in the mean time and it's OK right now.

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