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Windows 8 - Joystick Megathread problem.

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I say that because I lose the connection even with FSUIPC. But pausing, then, alt-tabbing, has worked for me so far. 

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Can anyone please confirm this is an FSX only issue? I might try go back to FS2004 if I'm entirely sure that this problem won't occur on FS9.

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I run Win7 and don't have this issue, but I did stumble across this, and wonder if anyone has tried it for the joystick disconnect problem.  I note that my joysticks have dual entries in Device Manager for both HID controller and USB Input device...this registry setting is on the USB Input Device line.

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2900614/en-us

 

Regards

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That's been mentioned before, but thanks anyway. The trouble is that the USB devices is not "suspended". It is still visible in the Windows 8 calibration app. It just disappears from the sim. Power management seems to only cure a small number of joystick dropouts in Win 8. What's left is probably a combination of joystick driver issues and a general flaw in Windows 8. 

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So has anyone on this megathread actually solved the issue? Because I don't quite have the time to look through 57 pages of forum posts. :/

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It can't be "solved", since it's an incompatibility between certain joystick drivers and Win 8. Here's my take, but you probably should still skim through the thread:

 

1. Some people get relief by changing the power settings on their USB hubs and devices so that Windows doesn't try to shut them down when Inactive.

 

2. A considerably larger number of people use FSUIPC to control their joystick and that works for some unknown reason.

 

3. P3d 2.4 will still stop displaying the joystick setting in its UI, but the joystick keeps working.

 

4. My experience with FSX SE is that I haven't lost my joystick yet, but time will tell. Most people using FSX know better than to use Win 8 though.

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I tried all the things given as solutions except Steam. Nothing consistent.

 

Created a new dual boot system with 7 & 8.1 and that works flawless.

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I have the same problem.

My joystick is configured through FSUIPC and disabled in P3D.

However my joystick stops working mid-flight even though it's still alive in the Game Controllers config of Win 8.1.

I can't get the joystick to reconnect and have to restart P3D to get it working. :mellow:

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Can anyone please confirm this is an FSX only issue? I might try go back to FS2004 if I'm entirely sure that this problem won't occur on FS9.

It's not i experience it in ARMA 3 and DCS also

 

 

Joystick: Topgun afterburner

I experience the same problems only i experience them also in ARMA 3 and DCS.

I called microsoft who after many hard words about how this is a broken product and i need to give them the opertunity to fix it within reasonable time and otherwise i want my money back. They offered a few solutions: A windows support team FOR 85 EURO's, with no garanty they can fix it. Or the email adress of microsoft flight: microsoftflight@microsoft.com .

 

ofcourse it is a windows problem so they can't help. However they're still working on other games so it is not a dead adress. And i think they can put more pressure on microsoft than we can so maybe all emailling that adress with the same line as me: I called microsoft <the problem> and they directed me to this adress. maybe if we all do that we can create pressure for microsoft to fix this.

 

Recently i've bought it on steam and gues what it works now. No more disconnects. Personally i think this is a conspiracy of steam and windows to make us all buy in to the DLC fest that will happen with steam. I usually don't think this way but since this is a 3 year old problem almost and the solution comes with steam i pretty much don't think there is another explanation if there isn't any other solution. 

 

Paying 1000's of euro's to get a nice sim and get screwed by windows with a easy fix issue since they know where it comes from.

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It's not i experience it in ARMA 3 and DCS also

Thanks, I've already downgraded to Win 7 in the mean time and it's OK right now.

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I seemed to have solved my problems by not switching windows while in the approach. Previously I would switch to another window to view a chart or wx. When I would switch back to FSX the joystick would no longer be recognized. I've now done two approaches and landings where I've never switched windows and stayed with FSX the entire time. Joystick remained functional. I think this may have been my problem, though I don't know if it is the problem for the rest of you. Try it out.

 

Config: Saitek AV8R-01 joystick, FSX with SP1/2. Core i7-4700M, GT 755M graphics, 8GB ram

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If you read through this thread, you will notice people report that when the main sim window loses focus, that's when the joystick disappears.

 

If MS doesn't want to fix it in its dead end OS of Win 8, there's nothing much that can be done.

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It can't be "solved", since it's an incompatibility between certain joystick drivers and Win 8. Here's my take, but you probably should still skim through the thread:

 

1. Some people get relief by changing the power settings on their USB hubs and devices so that Windows doesn't try to shut them down when Inactive.

 

2. A considerably larger number of people use FSUIPC to control their joystick and that works for some unknown reason.

 

3. P3d 2.4 will still stop displaying the joystick setting in its UI, but the joystick keeps working.

 

4. My experience with FSX SE is that I haven't lost my joystick yet, but time will tell. Most people using FSX know better than to use Win 8 though.

 

Very interesting!

 

Do you still haven't problem with FSX SE ?

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You might want to find out from someone else. I use P3d most of the time and don't use FSX-SE very much. But when I have used it, my joystick stays alive.

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Hi all, I'm on Win 7-64, but I'm working together with a friend of mine, to find a solution for the problem on Win 8.1.

Although we have not find a solution, we noticed a possible trace for someone who is more expert.

My friend own a Saitek X52 Pro, and is subjected to the "joystick loss" problem, but today, he noticed this: when the joystick stops to respond in FSX, often due to some action in other programs windows, he seemed to be able to "revive" the joystick, simply opening and reclosing the file SaiFlightSimX.xml using the notepad. That file is located in  C:\Program Files (x86)\Saitek\DirectOutput.

Maybe, some similar module is existing also for other brands of controllers.

Now, I know it's not a solution, but it could be a useful information to work on for some expert.

 

Mauro

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