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what has LDS got to do with FSL?

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I don't know, but I do know that Daryl Shuttleworth wrote the excellent 150 page tutorial for the FSL Concorde X

@Johny767: It flies nicely both autopilot and manual (though at version 0.7 a think the roll rate a bit slower than 0.6). Graphic BBS version 0.7 overall is not at AXE level yet but they still looks very good and they make good improvement over the updates.

For the hardcore section of Airbus FSX, I do hope that both BBS and FSLab will both win, simply they are both good developer, they work hard for their product therefore I think they both deserve respect and of course business from us .

 

@Will: I understand so from their facebook. So it means A330 will work its way from version 0.7 towards 0.1 and extreme.

What LDS did has nothing to do with FSL. Different companies, different times, what has LDS got to do with FSL?

 

My point is that FSL appear to have some serious programming expertise behind their brand, and they already released a "classic". They have announced the depth of simulation for their A320 and considering they delivered there is no reason to doubt it. LDS never posted screenshots of their 757, did they? FSL just posted a new one of their A320.

 

Back on topic, will the BBS version 0.7 form the basis of their expected A330 release?

It means that you can't say "company released product X which is great, so they will release product Y." Because LDS released product A and has still failed to release product B. FSL released a great Concorde addon, that doesn't mean the 320 is guaranteed to be released just because the company is a great company as people claimed.

 

What LDS did has nothing to do with FSL. Different companies, different times, what has LDS got to do with FSL?

 

My point is that FSL appear to have some serious programming expertise behind their brand, and they already released a "classic". They have announced the depth of simulation for their A320 and considering they delivered there is no reason to doubt it. LDS never posted screenshots of their 757, did they? FSL just posted a new one of their A320.

 

Back on topic, will the BBS version 0.7 form the basis of their expected A330 release?

It means that you can't say "company released product X which is great, so they will release product Y." Because LDS released product A and has still failed to release product B. FSL released a great Concorde addon, that doesn't mean the 320 is guaranteed to be released just because the company is a great company as people claimed.

Sorry, that doesn't make much sense, are you saying PMDG's 777 is not guaranteed to be released because LDS failed to release their 757? What one company did or didn't do should have no bearing on the affairs of others.

 

They are two different companies, at different cycles in their commercial life and different circumstances. FSL have shown the progress they have made and what they have programmed. Of course nothing is ever guaranteed, not even a PMDG release, but judge every company on their own merits, not someone else's. it is hardly fair.

 

FSL have shown the progress they have made and what they have programmed.

 

So did Airliner XP. You've completely missed the point. There is a good chance FSL will deliver, but you cannot draw conclusions about how wonderful it is when we haven't seen the product yet other than a few screenshots.

Hey guys, isn´t this topis about BBS bus or fighting over will FSL eventually release theirs?

Okay back to busines. I think BBS 0,7 looks quite promising. Still wondering should i bought BBS to company my AXE. I migth be bit scared to buy beta projects, CS might have effect on that.

Starting to work with A330 was quite good decission from them cause FSX lacks a good A330. With A320 they have tough competitors with AXE and future FSL (compare situation with Ifly 737 nad PMDG NGX)

 

FSL have shown the progress they have made and what they have programmed.

So did Airliner XP. You've completely missed the point. There is a good chance FSL will deliver, but you cannot draw conclusions about how wonderful it is when we haven't seen the product yet other than a few screenshots.

You are right, I draw the conclusions from my conversations with the development team. How about you?

Please guys, this topic is about BBS version 0.7. I know that BBS, FSLab, Aerosoft are all quality developer ok. Please leave the "battle" in other thread but not this one please....

@mikaT: depends, the graphic is not yet equalt to AXE, but improving. I m not sure AXE has what system wise, but I just know that BBS adds many system (Elec, Hyd, Eng, Bleed) and its ECAM pages in 0.7 (not 100% implemented though, saved for further updates). But in terms of "flyability", I am pretty sure that it works perfectly (you can see my youtube full flight couple of posts above). AP modes, A/THR mode works great (at least I think so), HDG, NAV, managed descend, V/S. APPR, etc...

And you use the word spot on. It indeed looks promising. .

Yes, you are correct. Am very keen on news about their A330!

engaging AP will make the plane bank violently to capture heading....  and the manual flying is way too slow (Aerosoft managed to implement the right feeling (bank speed) when flying manually).....  

engaging AP will make the plane bank violently to capture heading....  and the manual flying is way too slow (Aerosoft managed to implement the right feeling (bank speed) when flying manually).....  

I think you are refering to the old version, as in version 0.7 I think that one was fixed (and "violently" I think is a bit overdone but anyway). You may be right about the "sluggish" hand flying in 0.7 (in 0.6 it was very smooth), hope they can fix it soon, but anyway I still find no big problem hand flying the bus as I just manually landed it couple of hours ago . I tried AXE once at my friend's place at version 1.02 and find it also had sluggish dynamic, but I believe they already fixed that right Pao?

Airbus discussions these days produce 'heat'.

 

I own AXE, and 2 airbus add ons for FS9 and dont have BBS. Soon BBS may become one of the best airbus add ons, and by the time AXE is complete with their v1.05, I personally believe A320 standard will have been set, as both AXE and BBS stated they would work on 330.

 

FSL has been idle too long, they'll lose the moment. Even if they finally create an excellent A320, some may not care that much, as they are flying T7 and or complete AXE/BBS's A320. I am not saying the first move advantage determines success, but playing too safely (which is boring like Italian football) could cost them losing "airbus starvation" moment.

 

 

Sorry but I disagree.   I heard the same thing when the IFLY 737 came out, lots of doom and gloom on how PMDG missed the boat. 

 

Planes at the level of the FSL bus, Majestic Q400 and PMDG ngx and 777 take lots of time to build.

engaging AP will make the plane bank violently to capture heading....  and the manual flying is way too slow (Aerosoft managed to implement the right feeling (bank speed) when flying manually).....  

Roll rate (I guess that is what you are referring to) in normal law is completely off in the AXE

Roll rate (I guess that is what you are referring to) in normal law is completely off in the AXE

 

Sorry Rob, but I think this statement is a little baseless....

Sorry Rob, but I think this statement is a little baseless....

Josh, I should be clear in stating my comment is not intended to bash your product in anyway, I have always said the axe is what is. However the aircraft does not produce a 15 degree per second roll in normal law with max deflection. Am I missing something? I updated it a couple of weeks back.

 

Btw did you guys book any sim time when testing the FBW or did you just go on feedback?

 

Cheers