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P3D+ORBX+PMDG+AS2012= BAD FPS

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Hello everyone! Just so everyone knows, I am aware that if im using all those addons ill be getting bad fps but not as bad as i thought.

So i just got accepted into Qantas Virtual so ill be doing my flying in Australia, and who better for scenery than ORBX?! So I load up P3D, select YBBN (Brisbane, with all patches and I have taken out all the major FPS killers in the control panel except for PeopleFlow.) and I load up my 737. My FPS during the day time is only at 20 at the gate with the plane systems on! Now ill give you a series of tweaks that i did to my CFG file and system specs, also, should I turn the the resolution on the 737? Will it look really bad?

 

Used Bojotes tweak tool for fsx, For the bufferpools i replaced their number with 0, and i also added the Fiber frame fraction tweak and set it at 0.33. Other than that I set the ORBX effects to Day mode.

 

System specs:

Intel core i5 2500K 4.5ghz

AMD Radeon 6870 1GB

8GB RAM

750 Watts PSU

ASROCK P67 MOBO

FSX is on a 1TB hard drive

And numerous addons.

 

Is there maybe something i missed or can do to improve my frames when flying in australia? Because in Europe I get great frames, i dont check the number but get between 25 (lowest) to 40 with the pmdg. Thanks!

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Hi

 

it's also true that lower FPS in LM P3D desn't necessarily imply stuttering like we had in FSX... LM P3D, even at low fps, is smooth!

 

REading through your message, and having used PMDG 744x, 737 ngx, A2A p51d and b377, Aerosoft AirbusX Extended, and just a couple of Aerosoft airport sceneries, traffic set at 80% airliners and 50% GA, all I can suggest is that you lower your fiber_frame_fracton to 0.22, or even better to 0.20 and try with those values.

 

Also, I never used LOD in LM P3D higher than 4.5, although even 6.5 gave me acceptable performance over most less dense areas...


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Also, I never used LOD in LM P3D higher than 4.5, although even 6.5 gave me acceptable performance over most less dense areas...

 

That is a great example of why some people w/ high end machines end up reporting similar frame rate as I do, despite my 5 y/o hardware.  I think that is because many of us will happily trade frame rate performance for better image quality, at least to a certain, sometime mediocre, point.  Good thing you can downgrade LOD and get frame rate up to a friendlier minimum.  I know when I do the big upgrade I am going to try to keep image quality settings as they are now, and for LOD that's 4.5.  Though maybe 5.5 could be a better compromise.


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From what I have heard - 20 at YBBN - wow! You lucky fella.

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True story. YBBN is the pits when it comes to FPS. My computer beeps a warning of impending disaster, as in OOM alarm, every time I go near Brisbane.

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Alright guys, imma try and set the fiber frame fraction to 0.22 and i think the LOD radius is already at 4.5. Also, im purchasing the magestic software dash 8 and I hear its amazing on FPS so im gonna test that out.

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Remember that P3D relies more on the GPU than FSX does. That 6870 is getting a bit dated. And there's one setting you should turn off with a weak GPU: Tessellation. Kills fps on lower end graphics cards like ours.

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Used Bojotes tweak tool for fsx, For the bufferpools i replaced their number with 0, and i also added the Fiber frame fraction tweak and set it at 0.33. Other than that I set the ORBX effects to Day mode.

 

System specs:

Intel core i5 2500K 4.5ghz

AMD Radeon 6870 1GB

8GB RAM

750 Watts PSU

ASROCK P67 MOBO

FSX is on a 1TB hard drive

And numerous addons.

 

 

A few things.

 

1. Are you talking about FSX or P3D, because this is the P3D forum?

 

2. If your using P3D then you shouldn't be using Bojote tweaks in it as many of them are not needed and can cause more problems.

 

3. If your on FSX, the fiber frame fraction tweak that you set to .33 is actually the default level set by FSX but is not listed in the cfg file. So adding it and setting it to .33 is not doing anything.

 

4. In the ORBX control panel for that airport try turning off most of the features to increase FPS.

 

5. That airport is loaded with 4096 textures for a high resolution appearance but can easily cause OOMs and bad performance. Manually resize those textures to 1024 DTX textures and it will help a lot and minimize the chance of an OOM.

 

Using option 4 and 5 I can get about 25 to 30 FPS in the NGX on my system which is only running at 3.8ghz.


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Your problem is your GPU. You do not have even near enough VRAM. 


Wait, this thread is from 2013.....


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3 year old post reminds me how old my i5-2500k is.  Been running it 24/7 for about 5 years now at 4.3 GHz and still very stable.  Keep waiting for an excuse to upgrade, but doesn't seem to be worth the expense to go from 4.3 GHz to 4.5 GHz.

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Wait, this thread is from 2013.....

I didn't notice that until you mentioned it.

 

I wonder why TheNerd decided to drag it up to reply to the user after all these years.


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YBBN has some bad coding (but still looks amazing)and there is nothing you can do. I have tried tweaking that airport so many times.

 

Try fly around the airport in a GA over the roof of both terminals and you will find the spots where FPS just drops.

 

Doesnt matter how much horsepower you got there.

 

I have between 12-40fps in the NGX at YBBN depending on where you are looking with FTX AUSP4

 

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Makes me laugh when i remember back to the release of Orbx YBBN for fsx and i was happily flying around getting 9 fps, i remember the port of Brisbane cranes and refinery caused most problems, and running those gastly sandy looking ground textures that resemble a pearl also ground it to a halt.


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I didn't notice that until you mentioned it.

 

I wonder why TheNerd decided to drag it up to reply to the user after all these years.

 

Lol. Neither do I. It came up in the Recently Discussed Forum Topics for whatever reason. Didn't bother checking the date.  :fool:

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There is a freeware Ants Brisbane oit there aT Ozx very good


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