As you said, thanks to the external flight dynamcis engine it behaves properly, there's even a video on YouTube of a single engine taxi. The Propeller Electronic Control (PEC) takes care of Prop RPMs, unless you are on the ground they are usually spinning at commanded RPM (the condition lever has a range between 850 and 1020 rpm, plus feather and cuttoff). On the ground they sit on the underspeed governor at 660 rpm and you use the power lever's beta range to taxi (between disc and flight idle), unless you feather them in which case they sit at about 210 rpm and don't provide any thrust. During rollout, the braking effect of DISC is very noticeable, to the extent where it's not really worth bothering going in to reverse pitch. Even during taxying you needn't bother the brakes much, DISC does most of it.

 

You can't compare Majestic to Carenado, totally different league of systems modelling.

Thanks.

 

I know about comparing to Carenado, but merely mentioned that because of the inherent issue with FSX correctly modeling turboprops.

 

Can't wait to try this one out.

I plan to buy this excellent product.  I own the Dash-300 by Majestic, so I was a little hesitant and wanted to see reviews when it first came out.

 

Turbo props are not modelled well in FSX.  In the real world with a King Air or Beech 1900, for instance, when you move the power levers to flight idle with props set at 1700 RPM, the props help slow the aircraft because they create a tremendous amount of drag. 

 

When taxing a King Air or Beech 1900 in the real world, the power levers actually control the prop pitch and can move the plane slowly forward and slow/stop the aircraft without the use of brakes.  Every FSX turoboprop taxis like a racecar.  It seems you have to use jet aircraft techniques for taxi and approaches. In a real King Air or Beech 1900, the primary prop governer keeps the prop RPM down when the power levers are at ground or flight idle (the props are still on the low pitch stops), and RPMs only spin up to max (1700) when the power levers are moved a great deal forward.  Taxiing a real King Air is accomplished by use of the power levers in ground idle which sets a constant 1000 RPM and causes adjustments in the prop pitch forward and a small amount of reverse pitch.  You can stop and barely touch the brakes.  I just purchased the Carenado C90B, and am disappointed these issues were not addressed (it's a nice plane, and these issues probably couldn't be addressed due to FSX limitations) since it does not handle like the real AC.

 

I know that Majestic used a proprietary flight dynamics engine in this aircraft, so I am assuming that the turbo prop is accurately modelled (condition levers and power levers).  Can someone tell me if this is correct--I do not see any discussion of this specific topic anywhere?

 

Thanks.

I think you will be impressed with the FDE sitting outside of FSX. Like Chris said......it's in another league.

 

 

I think you will be impressed with the FDE sitting outside of FSX. Like Chris said......it's in another league.

 

Except for the fact it doesn't play with addons well

Except for the fact it doesn't play with addons well

Exactly. If I'd knew that I wouldn't buy it. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic addon, I do like it very much but I don't fly it anymore because it doesn't play with EZCA, Accufeel, GSX, FSCaptain,.. the addons I use on every flight.

It's a fact that using an external FDE does create compatibility issues with some FS enhancements that need to read aircraft data (speed, engine state etc), but to be fair to Majestic, they've worked to fix the GSX issues (not sure about AES) and at any rate they did include a pushback utility within the FMS to account for those issues to begin with.

 

The only thing I miss from Accufeel is the head movement, there are some nice ground roll sounds included with the Majestic and most of Accufeel's other features are really more GA orientated. As for FSCaptain, FSPassengers etc I'll never really understand those addons. I thought EZDok Camera had most of its functionality intact beyond stuff that required acceleration info (such as head movement)?

Exactly. If I'd knew that I wouldn't buy it. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic addon, I do like it very much but I don't fly it anymore because it doesn't play with EZCA, Accufeel, GSX, FSCaptain,.. the addons I use on every flight.

EZCA works perfect, I've never had a problem with it and the Q400, GSX is now working for push back, the only bug with that is you cannot start engines when being pushed and that will get fixed.

You do not need Accufeel with the Q400.

NyxxUK, on 17 May 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

 

EZCA works perfect, I've never had a problem with it and the Q400, GSX is now working for push back, the only bug with that is you cannot start engines when being pushed and that will get fixed.

You do not need Accufeel with the Q400.

I don't get any head movement with EZCA. So, for me, it doesn't work.

Accufeel provides nice turbulence effects but I don't get any turbulence at all with Q400.

Nice to hear GSX is working now.

 

ckyliu, on 17 May 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

As for FSCaptain, FSPassengers etc I'll never really understand those addons.

You can read all about them on their website.

ckyliu, on 17 May 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

I thought EZDok Camera had most of its functionality intact beyond stuff that required acceleration info (such as head movement)?

Well, I'm talking about head movement, that's a major part of EZCA. It just feels strange flying in a completely static VC. EZCA DHM spoiled me.

You can read all about them on their website.

Sorry, I should have phrased that better; I don't understand why people would want FS Captain, FSPax etc! I know what they do and I am aware people do use them, but I just don't get the point. But we're straying off topic so I'll stop talking now :rolleyes:

Sorry, I should have phrased that better; I don't understand why people would want FS Captain, FSPax etc! I know what they do and I am aware people do use them, but I just don't get the point. But we're straying off topic so I'll stop talking now :rolleyes:

Well, a lot of people are using those addons and enjoying them so they very well understand why.

 

Maybe I wasn't clear enough.. if Q400 would work with my favorite addons than Q400 would be one of my favorite airplanes if not the favorite! But I got so used to benefits of other addons that suddenly I can't use. I didn't know that would be the case when I bought the airplane. That's all.

It does work on windows 8

Ron

 

 

You can read all about them on their website.

 

 

Sorry, I should have phrased that better; I don't understand why people would want FS Captain, FSPax etc! I know what they do and I am aware people do use them, but I just don't get the point. But we're straying off topic so I'll stop talking now :rolleyes:

 

I'm with you. No problem if others use those add-ons, but they are not for me.

AFAIK this plane is certified for CATIII approaches and have the capability of dual ap. I don't know if the AP is certified to land the airplane but it would make sense to me. No meaning whether it is modelled though.

Nope it isn't the current Majestic Dash 8 is CATII

It does work on windows 8

Ron

Thanks Ron.

EZCA works perfect, I've never had a problem with it and the Q400, GSX is now working for push back, the only bug with that is you cannot start engines when being pushed and that will get fixed.

You do not need Accufeel with the Q400.

 

EZCA works perfect?  Are you using all of the various head movement features, and can say with confidence that it behaves no differently than it would with any other airplane?

Yes I can, why you think my lieing?