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Fell out of Sky Today

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This was a first for me:  Was on a stable approach on the ILS 24R approach into LAX this morning when I disconnected the autopilot at about 1000 ft and suddenly nosed over and plunged into the ground.  NTSB investigating...

Steve Giblin

 

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Yikes. Poor Q400, must be pilot error. :lol:

ORBX- the way to go

Sincerely, John McGee

Sounds like I can expect a new episode of Air Crash Investigation/Mayday next year!  ^_^ 
In all earnest, did it tip over? Did it just dive to the ground?

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Yes, very tragic.  Great replay though!!

 

Happened very quickly with no warning...Transcript of CVR:

 

Oh #&@#!

Steve Giblin

 

Hee hee, I too experienced a stall on landing! I think the AOA is a lot shallower than many planes and it has to be 'flown' onto the runway a lot more than other aircraft...

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Hee hee, I too experienced a stall on landing! I think the AOA is a lot shallower than many planes and it has to be 'flown' onto the runway a lot more than other aircraft...

"'flown' onto the runway" That's the key, it's really easy to pull too much power off at the wrong moment.

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"'flown' onto the runway" That's the key, it's really easy to pull too much power off at the wrong moment.

 

Hi Mike, sure... it's surprising how disappointed I was with myself afterwards!

Howard
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Hi Mike, sure... it's surprising how disappointed I was with myself afterwards!

Don't be to hard on yourself Howard, if like me you use the throttles for reverse, it's quite easy in the Dash to pull back a tad to far.....Boy is that fun or what!!...;-)

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this is not a stall.upset condition,stabilizer goes to full forward and wont come back

Captain Hamzeh Farhadi

A320 TRI/TRE at Iran Air

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Hee hee, I too experienced a stall on landing! I think the AOA is a lot shallower than many planes and it has to be 'flown' onto the runway a lot more than other aircraft...

Airspeed? Stall horn?

This was definitely not a stall. Everything was perfect on the approach. I think the flight dynamics engine disconnected with FSX or something. It literally fell out of the sky.

 

Cool replay from tower view....HE HE...

Steve Giblin

 

It's interesting to note 2 people had that problem (if I'm reading Capt. Farhadi right). Did the stabilizer go full forward with you as well, Steve? Or was it a completely different reason that caused you to crash?

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Nosed over hard and could not recover...

Steve Giblin

 

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