Wow, very nice indeed. I use the very same combination myself but must say I can't remember seeing that high quality seen in your screenshots. As for the water also amazing that is default FSX water, thought it looked very very nice in your screenshots! I use AS2012 water but after looking at your screenshots maybe I'll give the default FSX water a go :smile:

 

Edited to add one more question, what water setting are you using in FSX? Looks like it might be all the way to the right since you have reflections in the water both from the scenery and also the sky. I've tried running the water setting in FSX at max myself but came to the conclusion it dropped my FPS too much so currently I'm running the water at Low 2.x but maybe I'll also try increasing that a bit again to see the difference.

 

It should be if you are on GEX V2.30 and depending on what landclass you additionally use with UTX of which I forgot to add that I have SceneryTech EU "sandwiched" between the UTX libraries in the scenery.cfg file...

Water setting is at 2.high :wink:

 

Edit:  Scenerytech Europe landclass is between the UT Urban and UT vegetation entries

JV view will cost him business in the long term. X-plane 10 modern technology and fsx is obsolete. Orbx just putting lipstick on the pig with fsx it's likely be put to better use in Xplane.

 

The problem is that XP10 is still a fragmented product, missing far too many important variables to be a real competitor.

 

Hopefully that changes in the future.

 

Orbx or whoever aren't going to dump development into XP10 until it is updated with some very basic things to attract a broader user base. Namely, default airport buildings, a real AI system, seasons, better ATC, and full landclass w/landmarks. Things FSX has had since 2006.

 

Well, those things and the fact that developers don't like working with a product constantly in beta. XP10 has a ton of potential but it's in a bit of a limbo right now until Laminar brings it up to snuff.

^_^ Indeed there is.

 

Now that Orbx has started working on Norwegian Airports I hope they consider making "Værøy" ENVY.

 

It's considered the most dangerous airport in Norway because of the dangerous winds coming from the mountain and got closed for commercial traffic in the 90's after an accident. It's still used for private GA and helicopter traffic.

And then convince FSglobal Real Weather devs to code in these local effects, that would be awesome B)

 

Lol.....it seems your prayers are being heard, listened to, and acted upon - it appears Aerosoft will be releasing Værøy ENVY as in this link (AirDailyX - great website/blog by the way for FSX)

 

http://airdailyx.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/aerosoft-vry-airport-norway.html

 

You lucky man!!!

 

Regards

 

Steve

ENVY - that has to be the coolest ICAO code I've ever seen! ..... I'm jealous of it! (see what I did there :wink:).

 

 

 

The problem is that XP10 is still a fragmented product, missing far too many important variables to be a real competitor.

 

Hopefully that changes in the future.

 

Orbx or whoever aren't going to dump development into XP10 until it is updated with some very basic things to attract a broader user base. Namely, default airport buildings, a real AI system, seasons, better ATC, and full landclass w/landmarks. Things FSX has had since 2006.

 

 

+1

 

This get's my "post of the week" award.   Couldn't have said it better myself.    Like many others, XP10 is the sim that I so wanted to love but could not, due to those missing fundamentals.  (as well as horrible running performance on ATI cards).   It has great potential; and a lovely general immersion and sense of height when in flight, but so many things that we've become used to and enjoy, just aren't there..... (yet).

 

 

Lol.....it seems your prayers are being heard, listened to, and acted upon - it appears Aerosoft will be releasing Værøy ENVY as in this link (AirDailyX - great website/blog by the way for FSX)

Steve

 

Wow, didn't think my magic spells would take effect that quick :lol: Looks awesome, now only thing that remains is that FS Global devs add those weather effects B)  Hope the "forces" are with me on that one too :lol:

 

Thanks for the heads up :Party:

 

 

Wow, very nice indeed. I use the very same combination myself but must say I can't remember seeing that high quality seen in your screenshots. As for the water also amazing that is default FSX water, thought it looked very very nice in your screenshots! I use AS2012 water but after looking at your screenshots maybe I'll give the default FSX water a go :smile:

 

Edited to add one more question, what water setting are you using in FSX? Looks like it might be all the way to the right since you have reflections in the water both from the scenery and also the sky. I've tried running the water setting in FSX at max myself but came to the conclusion it dropped my FPS too much so currently I'm running the water at Low 2.x but maybe I'll also try increasing that a bit again to see the difference.

 

 

It should be if you are on GEX V2.30 and depending on what landclass you additionally use with UTX of which I forgot to add that I have SceneryTech EU "sandwiched" between the UTX libraries in the scenery.cfg file...

Water setting is at 2.high :wink:

 

Edit: Scenerytech Europe landclass is between the UT Urban and UT vegetation entries

 

What does SceneryTech Europe give you when you already have UTX?

 

About the water settings I figured so

What does SceneryTech Europe give you when you already have UTX?

 

About the water settings I figured so

I prefer to have SceneryTech EU for the vegetation and rural classes, UTX for urban and their custom landclass. Having it layered in between them SceneryTech takes priority over UTX regarding rural and vegetation. Best of both worlds... :wink:

 

 

do I hear monopoly?

 

This has also been a concern of mine ever since ORBX started to dominate a large portion of the scenery market...

 

I fear that this may do more harm than good...

 

 

What does SceneryTech Europe give you when you already have UTX?

 

 

About the water settings I figured so

 

 

I prefer to have SceneryTech EU for the vegetation and rural classes, UTX for urban and their custom landclass. Having it layered in between them SceneryTech takes priority over UTX regarding rural and vegetation. Best of both worlds... :wink:

 

Ok, thanks! I'll have a look at SceneryTech and maybe I'll buy it.

This has also been a concern of mine ever since ORBX started to dominate a large portion of the scenery market...

 

I fear that this may do more harm than good...

There's no harm in being the best and better than all the rest. It's not a monopoly when there's plenty of competition. The competition just doesn't produce the same results.

 

I have GEX and can't wait to replace it with ORBX textures.

You are talking about XP-10 taking advantage of new technologies right?.....if not what new technology are you referring to in FSX?

The best "new technologies" are ones that tangibly improve the look and feel of a flight sim. Just because an app is 64 bit or can utilize all the bells and whistles of the most recent overpriced video card, it doesn't automatically qualify as an improvement.

This has also been a concern of mine ever since ORBX started to dominate a large portion of the scenery market...

 

 

 

I fear that this may do more harm than good...

 

Seriously?  GEX and UTX (both Flight1 products and both products I own and have valued) have absolutely dominated the broad scale scenery market for FSX for years now.  A viable competitor to GEX appears and suddenly all this FUD about monopolies?  I think you need a better understanding of how someone corners a market.  This isn't it.

 

This is competition at its best.  If this is good it will become the new recommended product and others will have to step up.  If it's not, then GEX will remain the go-to for large scale texture products.

 

Good grief.

 

Scott

Seriously?  GEX and UTX (both Flight1 products and both products I own and have valued) have absolutely dominated the broad scale scenery market for FSX for years now.  A viable competitor to GEX appears and suddenly all this FUD about monopolies?

 

This is competition at its best.  If this is good it will become the new recommended product and others will have to step up.  If it's not, then GEX will remain the go-to for large scale.

 

Good grief.

 

Scott

 

Nobody is saying that competition is not good, competition is VERY good but when you installed GEX or UTX USA did you have to switch back to FSX to fly to Mexico, did you receive a warning from Flight1 when buying GEX that their products may not be 100% compatible with other developers sceneries, did Flight1 asked other developers to join them to make sure their sceneries would be compatible with THEIR products? 

 

 I have to admit though that at least Orbx is giving the potential purchasers of FTX Global a fair warning as to the compatibility problems that their product MAY cause to your sceneries if a developer of the said scenery is not on board with them.

 

 

Nobody is saying that competition is not good, competition is VERY good but when you installed GEX or UTX USA did you have to switch back to FSX to fly to Mexico, did you receive a warning from Flight1 when buying GEX that their products may not be 100% compatible with other developers sceneries, did Flight1 asked other developers to join them to make sure their sceneries would be compatible with THEIR products?

 

Other developers (including Orbx) have had to deal with some level of how to work with these products for the simple reason that they've been the market leaders.  But none of this speaks to the question of "monopolies".

 

If you read some of my other posts in this thread, you'll see that I also have concerns about the whole "FTX Central" issue.  I'm not a day one buyer. 

 

The nature of competition is such that a company can and will try to push the market in a given direction, producing potentially disruptive technologies.  That's good.  It doesn't give them a lock.  The market will respond positively or not.  If it does, other companies will need to respond and address compatibility or push their own position and do better.  If someone can do better, they will unless someone has an unfair advantage.  Right now, Flight1 has the advantage in this market (but not unfairly), and Orbx is trying to take that position from them (but again, I don't see how they can do so unfairly).  The benefit is to the consumer.

 

Scott

 

 

 

Nobody is saying that competition is not good, competition is VERY good but when you installed GEX or UTX USA did you have to switch back to FSX to fly to Mexico, did you receive a warning from Flight1 when buying GEX that their products may not be 100% compatible with other developers sceneries, did Flight1 asked other developers to join them to make sure their sceneries would be compatible with THEIR products?

 

You keep saying this, but this is actually something they are working hard to overcome with FTX Global. They are correcting their mistakes from the past. And that means in the future the regions will be compitable.

I still think you haven't actually read the announcment from Orbx thoroughly.

 

Offcourse they can't guarantee that all other addons will be compitable that would be stupid because if there are issues those people that bought in good faith are going to go crazy on the Orbx support forums complaining, but as JV said most of them will.

It's the sceneries with custom autogen that can cause issues, but that is not a Orbx issue, it's an FSX issue and they are willing to make them compitable if the other scenery makers are willing to send them their autogen files so they can be merged....(they don't need to go   in bed with Orbx)

 

This problem happens with non Orbx scenerys also .e.g France VFR and ES channel Islands, Santorini, Flytampa Grenadines.

I actually spent a whole week trying to get France VFR and ES work together without any luck.

 

And what do you mean get onboard with them?, as far as I can see, 29 palms scenerys also still work with GEX, UTX+ they are Orbx compitable so what's the problem? Same goes for Aerosoft. This doesnt mean Aerosoft and other scenerys only will be compitable with Orbx. And that scenery makers are starting to talk together is just good for us customers because it will mean better coexistance....

 

To me this solving of the switcher and making it more compitable with other scenerys is one of the best things that could happen to me as a Orbx customer...

 

As I said previously I have most addons there is from other devs and when Global comes out I'm willing to make a list of all my sceneries and what will be compitable and whatnot, so I can be your guinea pig....

 

 

Here is the good News that some people find it hard to see:

 

"Longer term we want to get rid of FTX Central altogether, or at least the need to switch autogen sets. How do we do this? A huge amount of work which will be in part funded by FTXG. We need to re-do the autogen for PNW and NA regions, Australia and the upcoming NCA. There will be a performance improvement as a result too, so we're keen to roll it out. Please give us some time to architect the best solution though, but it will happen."