We have lift-off! SimHeaven OSM+AUTOGEN is ORBX GLOBAL!

[riccardo74]

I'm very interested in trying SimHeaven with XPX, but where I can start from? Is there a wiki or tutorial?

 

Another question: would be possible to see comparison sot before and after installation?

[PilotBalu]

I think, installation is easy, just copy the folder to custom scenery, and adjust the priority of the scenery as written here and in the readme.

 

Here is a direct comparism for Hamburg, Germany: left is osm + photo sceneries, right is original, medium settings, results may differ in US:

 

 

 

And a comparism for EDDN, final approch sector Rwy28, Nuremberg Germany:

 

 

 

 

 

guess which is original

 

I have more shots, maybe you know Berlin and Hamburg:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Innsbruck, Austria and Rhine valley south of Lake Constance

 

 

 

 

 

and this was also built in OSM

 

 

 

The "real" airplane was positioned wrong in the airport scenery, the osm "building" has the right position as you can see on the street behind.

[riccardo74]

Very impressive! And all this is free directly from SimHaven? I haven't to start from OSM site?

[Longranger]

Very impressive! And all this is free directly from SimHaven? I haven't to start from OSM site?

Exactly. You don't need to bother with the OSM repository directly. Pilot Balu already did this for you.

[FogGobbler]

I tried the Europe OSM & Autogen from Simheaven, but I´m a bit disappointed about the performance. I´ve got a i7, 2600k, oc 4,6Ghz, 8GB memory and GTX 680 graphics card and not maxed out the settings. Using the Europe OSM turned my simulator into a slide show, i.e. flying around Hamburg. 

Would more memory (16GB) help?

[MdMax]

Before you upgrade your hardware:

 

Reducing the LOD in your facade files would help, or reducing the number of objects in the X-Plane options. I'm still using a Core2/8Gb system.

[Pascal_LSGC]

I tried the Europe OSM & Autogen from Simheaven, but I´m a bit disappointed about the performance. I´ve got a i7, 2600k, oc 4,6Ghz, 8GB memory and GTX 680 graphics card and not maxed out the settings. Using the Europe OSM turned my simulator into a slide show, i.e. flying around Hamburg. 

Would more memory (16GB) help?

Did you try with "Europe OSM only" ? Germany (and Europe generally) is very well covered by OSM. Hamburg is fully covered with buildings ! The file you downloaded combines the default X-Plane autogen AND the OSM autogen ! This makes an awful lot of polygons, and the default is not even needed.

[FogGobbler]

@@Pascal : No, I haven´t yet, but that is something I should to try out, thanks for your reply.  

 

But besides that, do you think that more ram would make any difference at all? I don´t really think so, because it is  more a cpu bottleneck-problem, or am I wrong?

[Pascal_LSGC]

@@Pascal : No, I haven´t yet, but that is something I should to try out, thanks for your reply.  

 

But besides that, do you think that more ram would make any difference at all? I don´t really think so, because it is  more a cpu bottleneck-problem, or am I wrong?

My system is similar to yours, except that I have 24Gb Ram. 8Gb can be a bottleneck, and if it happens you'll notice it for sure. Falling back to swap makes things really, really slow. As I have enough ram, the next bottleneck on my system is Vram. 2Gb is barely enough for heavy sceneries. (i.e, heavy OSM+orthoscenery+a big airport). In this case, I take take textures down from extreme to very high and all is fine.

I'm not sure that your proc is an issue. I would think it's not.

[PilotBalu]

First, since XP 10.20 you need a lot of RAM and VRAM or you'd have to lower settings. Or as MdMax said, lower LOD to have less objects

 

OSM + Autogen is the hardest thing you can do to your RAM/VRAM. You could also mix the two versions of OSM, having OSM only in regions where osm data is excellent, like France, Germany and having OSM+autogen in US or in Spain, you can mix tile by tile, just copy the dsf files (or delete the exclusion of object in the dsf)

 

If VRAM is full, your PC has to swap between RAM and VRAM and this lowers the speed extremely. I have a GTX680 with 4 GB  VRAM and 32 GB RAM, in some regions like Paris, all of the VRAM is needed, so if you have to choose between VRAM or speed, then choose VRAM for using X-Plane. In my tests I have seen, that RAM should be 4x VRAM so GTX680 with 4 GB, is 16 GB RAM needed to take full advantage. With my configuration I have normally > 60fps up to 120 fps (I cut normally at 60 as my eyes don't catch this ) Well it depends a lot on your hardware, bios, drivers, settings, there are things one could improve.

 

Also photo sceneries could help to improve frame rate, some user say, it doubles the frame rate. With my configuration it is >50% faster then standard terrain.

 

And it also depends on additional sceneries, e.g. big airports One could have 60 fps over Hamburg, others have 20 pr lower as they've installed EDDH mega scenery.

 

So my first advice if you're having troubles with frame rate, lower settings for objects or lower LOD and/or use osm+only version.

[FogGobbler]

Thanks guys  :Applause: . Can´t wait to get home and try things out :-)

[Arwen]

 

 

If VRAM is full, your PC has to swap between RAM and VRAM and this lowers the speed extremely. I have a GTX680 with 4 GB  VRAM and 32 GB RAM, in some regions like Paris, all of the VRAM is needed, so if you have to choose between VRAM or speed, then choose VRAM for using X-Plane. In my tests I have seen, that RAM should be 4x VRAM so GTX680 with 4 GB, is 16 GB RAM needed to take full advantage. With my configuration I have normally > 60fps up to 120 fps (I cut normally at 60 as my eyes don't catch this ) Well it depends a lot on your hardware, bios, drivers, settings, there are things one could improve.

 

My old 6-year-old computer can barely run X-plane 9.7, but I'm planning on having a new system built within the next month or so, and will be purchasing X-plane 10. Trying to figure out what I need in a new build has been pretty difficult for me.  I've selected the GTX 780, which has 3GB  of VRAM, so I should be ok in that area. But I'm a bit confused about how much RAM I should get, and could really use some advice. I'm planning on getting 16GB of RAM, but it would not cost much more for me to increase this to 32GB. Do you think X-plane 10 would benefit from more than 16GBs of RAM? (Either now, or in the near future.)

 

Thank you so much for what you are doing to improve X-plane!  I cannot wait to try out OSM!

[Pascal_LSGC]

Hello Arwen,

The GTX 780 seems an excellent choice ! The GPU is the most essential component for X-Plane 10. IMHO, 16Gb ram should be pretty enough for the middle term future, but you never know what the future holds.

 

Pascal

[gheeD]

 

That's Berlin with the osm only pack installed all settings max on Intel i5 4670k, GTX780 with 3GB VRAM and 16GB RAM. I didn't manage to get Berlin ZL17 photoscenery pack to work even though i put it in the .ini but oh well. 

 

Looks really great as you can see and GTX780 is definitely worth the purchase even if Haswell cpu might not be too big of an upgrade going from sandy bridge or ivy bridge. (I had i7 930 before so it was quite good upgrade)

[PilotBalu]

The new Osm Europe forest for XP10 in online!

Changes to previous version are:
- based on osm data June 2013
- forests crossing borders of tiles are included
- large forests built of multipolygons are included
- multipolygons are splitted if having >255 windings

Scenery is only needed, if you're unsatisfied with autogen or other osm scenery forests in Europe. This file must have a higher priority as other osm sceneries for Europe, please read the readme.txt carefully! You can download here:
http://simheaven.com/?page_id=208&wpfb_file=416

Have fun flying!! and remember: Never fly faster than X-Plane loads!

Next are "normal" osm sceneries, having smart exclusions, buildings and forests made of multipolygons, starting with Antarctica, Africa, Central and South America... then follows Australia, Asia, North America and Europe (from smallest to biggest file), as I need a performance update for the bigger continents.