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Downtown Calgary being Evacuated, Hundreds of Thousands Effected

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Calgary Alberta and surrounding towns and cities are inundated with nonstop heavy rain, water far above highest flood plain.   

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6OglIzU0kM

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWkT1HkI-Yk

 

http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1335319

 

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/calgary-orders-evacuation-of-entire-downtown-core-1.1335330

 

http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1335319

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/story/2013/06/21/alberta-flooding-calgary-canmore-high-water.html

 

I have children and grandchildren there, but safe, at least for now, I think... Water rolls east with dozens of communities and Medicine Hat in the crosshairs.

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I live about 400 miles to the Southwest and the rain has been coming down for days. Today is our first day with sun in about 5 days which is rare for living in a shrub-steppe area. The wheat has been loving the two inches of rain we have received!

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The Bow River flows east to Lake Winnipeg and onto Hudson's Bay so hopefully their won't be more problems downstream. There are control dams and hydroelectric dams which help to control the flow of water.

 

The flooding is effecting about 100,000 people so far in both Calgary and Banff, What a mess.

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ytzpilot, on 21 Jun 2013 - 5:40 PM, said:

 

The Bow River flows east to Lake Winnipeg and onto Hudson's Bay so hopefully their won't be more problems downstream. There are control dams and hydroelectric dams which help to control the flow of water.

 

The flooding is effecting about 100,000 people so far in both Calgary and Banff, What a mess.

It certainly is. Nearly 200,000 more work in the downtown core, which houses the bulk of the economic powerhouse of Alberta. With the downtown electrical, waterworks and transportation systems and lower levels flooded and severely damaged it is going to a massive hit economically. It will likely be a fairly lasting blow to many of the companies involved, especially the smaller ones.

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Wow! What a wicked water trap that is on the downtown golf course!

 

I just had to giggle a bit when I read the gist of this story: "CTV anchor Darrel Janz talks about being rescued from his home after ignoring evacuation warnings."

 

My prayers go out for everyone affected's continued safety...

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I hope all are able to get to safety. Its pretty bad. My parents were staying in YYC downtown for the weekend enroute to YVR and ended up evacuating from the order. They were on the 22nd floor of the hotel with no power. Pretty crazy flooding. There is report of deaths unfortunately. Terrible. 

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Sad. I hope the best for the people of Alberta.

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I just read the animals from the Calgary Zoo had to be relocated, most of them to a local wildlife sanctuary, however the Lions and Tigers and other carnivores have been moved to the city jail.

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I just read the animals from the Calgary Zoo had to be relocated, most of them to a local wildlife sanctuary, however the Lions and Tigers and other carnivores have been moved to the city jail.

Yes I saw that too. Only in Calgary lol

The people of Calgary and area are great and as a fellow Albertan resident I'm thinking of them

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however the Lions and Tigers and other carnivores have been moved to the city jail.

 

So far that is just a contingency plan, and hasn't actually happened.

 

The Saddledome, where the Calgary Flames play, is flooded up to at least the 10th row of seats. Some reports now say up to the 14th row.

 

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/alberta/Saddledome+officials+staff+safe+expect+significant+damage/8561161/story.html

 

It isn't just Calgary and Banff, but most of Southern Alberta. Lethbridge, High River, Turner Valley and the Crowsnest Pass have all been affected too. Turner Valley had an additional scare with a sour gas pipeline rupturing in the flooding. Thankfully that didn't become a major problem. Basically the entire town of Bragg Creek was flooded out.

 

And yeah, there were many people that didn't leave when first asked to do. Some of this was because they weren't heavily affected by the last major flooding in 2005. However, Mother Nature decided it was time for one of her 100 year floods. Not much you can do when she decides she really wants to do something.

 

Here are a couple of videos from Canmore. This creek is typically a couple meters wide, if there is even any water in it at all.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWClAZguPg4

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBt5MISANm4

 

And here's what's left of the Trans-Canada Highway, and CP Rail line underneath.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_IbrPIsLyg

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This event is considered a once in history event, if there is such a thing. There is something like 3 times the volume of water that has been experienced before. Drumheller and Medicine Hat as well as numerous smaller cities and towns are in dire danger.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/story/2013/06/22/alberta-floods-evacuations.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-dP0H2N0nXw

 

Much of downtown Medicine Hat will be covered and there is great risk to the primary Trans-Canada Canadian Pacific Railroad Bridge just down river from the old Finley Bridge. Both just barely survived floods less than half this size a few years ago.

 

 

 

In the 1995 flood I was there for the event and witnessed the CPR drive several locomotives onto the bridge to try and hold it down. The water was a foot or so underneath both bridges. It is much higher this time.

 

 

 

I first drove across the Finley on Jan. 1, 1973 at the helm of a 1972 Chrysler New Yorker. I met a car and closed my eyes, but did not take either mirror off!

 

 

 

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Flooding sucks it destroys everything in its path. Use basements for things that non replaceable items. Been flooded twice and winter ends when ice melts and things break lose. Winnipeg is smart they built a series dikes to divert the garbage the red river throws at it and Fargo been trying to get same dikes Winnipeg had and gets flooded over and over.

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I live in Vancouver, and our class went camping, we were not happy with what we experienced!

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Winnipeg is smart they built a series dikes to divert the garbage the red river throws at it and Fargo been trying to get same dikes Winnipeg had and gets flooded over and over.

 

After the floods in Calgary in 2005 the Province and City did a study that concluded that $300 million of dikes and other changes would prevent the sort of damage that happened. Of course that looked like a huge price tag at the time, and then the economic mess happened, so almost nothing was done. Now we're looking at billions in damage.

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I was in Winnipeg following the red river flooding and the river walk was still under water at that time. Amazing to me that Calgary didn't invest and they had the money to do so, just not the political motivation to take on an infrastructure project of that size.

 

Same could be said about Toronto following Hurricane Hazel, today they have built a series of dikes and control dams to protect that city as well, the largest one at Finch and Dufferin area to control water coming in from the Oak Ridges Moraine, and this is a city of lower flood risk compared to Calgary but they made those projects happen back in the 1950's.

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Amazing to me that Calgary didn't invest and they had the money to do so, just not the political motivation to take on an infrastructure project of that size.

 

The difference, at least compared to Winnipeg, is that we haven't had flooding this extreme since 1932 (I believe). 2005 was one of the worst in decades, but it only really affected homes immediately along the rivers and maybe the next row inland. This year entire communities were inundated and I know of at least a few houses that will need to be demolished and rebuilt from the ground up. See the article below to get an idea of the sheer volumes of the rivers and how far out of the normal range they were.

 

http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2013/06/22/graphic-bow-elbow-and-highwood-flowing-five-to-10-times-normal-rate/

 

This video gives a good overview of the flooding of the inner city and downtown areas.

 

 

Maybe this time more will be done. However, the provincial budget was already strained and many departments had major cuts, so politics will quickly come into it.

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The difference, at least compared to Winnipeg, is that we haven't had flooding this extreme since 1932 (I believe).

 

That is just it.....If it has happened before then it was inevitable it was going to happen again. Politicians just have a hard time justifying an infrastructure project before something happens. This is a case of too little too late.

 

Where I live their has been enormous spending on earthquake strengthening that has had an effect on the local economy during a global recession, spending went forward any ways and many local business have suffered through this time due to slow economy and forced to spend money on expensive retrofits, The last earthquake in Wellington was 1855, next would could be 150 years away still, but the recent quakes in Christchurch has made earthquake strengthening a priority in other regions here, just in case.

 

When the job is done and the economy recovers it will be better but it was a case of very bad timing to do that sort of work right now. If we did get an earthquake in the next 10 years we would be that much more ready for it.

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After the floods in Calgary in 2005 the Province and City did a study that concluded that $300 million of dikes and other changes would prevent the sort of damage that happened. Of course that looked like a huge price tag at the time, and then the economic mess happened, so almost nothing was done. Now we're looking at billions in damage.

Politicians like ribbon cutting ceremonies a levy system does not provide a good backdrop for it like new road or light rail train project.  Surprised it happen this late because most floods happen in April and May when the snow and ice is melting. They were using TNT and dyamnite in North Dakota couple years to ago to blow ice sheets on the rivers to keep it from clogging up dams, bridges, railroad crossing call it damage prevention.  The damage from flood sucks its means getting it from the insurance and trusting the person fixing your basement is not gonna take you to the cleaners. 

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Best of luck to our Canadian friends. I always enjoyed Calgary and really like Alberta. Meanwhile, we in Central Texas couldn't buy a rain. Lake Travis is down 42 feet.

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Best of luck to our Canadian friends. I always enjoyed Calgary and really like Alberta. Meanwhile, we in Central Texas couldn't buy a rain. Lake Travis is down 42 feet.

I'm from Calgary. Really crappy for those effected. Up on the North end by the airport really nothing as we are high ground. City is going to have the Stampede grounds ready for the biggest outdoor show on Earth. The Calgary Stampede! I hope so. The Saddledome arena was full of water up to row 10. The grounds were submerged in several feet of water and sludge a day ago. Stampede is in 2 weeks.

 

Hardest hit IMO was High River CEN4. Airport was untouched as it was high enough and far enough from the Highwood River. 3 deaths there.

 

C.

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All nine of my kids, grandchildren and family in Calgary are safe, in areas that were high enough to avoid the river. I had a tense night or two! I spent 30 years in Alberta, with most of it in Calgary and Medicine Hat, so the whole things seems very personal. If I were within driving distance instead of 3,000 miles away, I would be down volunteering at the cleanup sites instead of working on the computer!

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All nine of my kids, grandchildren and family in Calgary are safe, in areas that were high enough to avoid the river. I had a tense night or two!

Good news Stephan

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All nine of my kids, grandchildren and family in Calgary are safe, in areas that were high enough to avoid the river. I had a tense night or two! I spent 30 years in Alberta, with most of it in Calgary and Medicine Hat, so the whole things seems very personal. If I were within driving distance instead of 3,000 miles away, I would be down volunteering at the cleanup sites instead of working on the computer!

9 kids?! Wow. Any of them with the sim bug like pappa?

 

C.

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9 kids?! Wow. Any of them with the sim bug like pappa?

 

C.

Let me rephrase that: Nine of my family, including kids and grandchildren..,

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