I use progressive. I feel its not that different from having a FO help you out with a chart which I imagen happens from time to time at the majors if the captain is unfamiliar with the airport (If I'm going to an unfamiliar airport IRL with a knowledgeable pilot in the right seat I'm always more than happy to have an extra set of eyes even on the ground) . Also I find default ATC can be wacky, sending you the wrong way down taxiways ment mostly for one direction. This means that with some major addon airports (FSDT LAX I have found) all the taxiway signs are in the wrong direction and I would have no idea where I was even with a chart. 

When I used Default ATC, unless I knew the airport well, or the taxi signs were clear in high quality airport scenery addons (Most are not), I would use the progressive taxi option. Now I use PFE, which has multiple options. I use the audio FO directions only now, which I think is much more realistic than visual assists like progressive taxi.

When I used Default ATC, unless I knew the airport well, or the taxi signs were clear in high quality airport scenery addons (Most are not), I would use the progressive taxi option. Now I use PFE, which has multiple options. I use the audio FO directions only now, which I think is much more realistic than visual assists like progressive taxi.

Kool!! What is PFE an where can i find it ?

 

 

What is PFE an where can i find it ?

PFE=ProFlight Emulator, an ATC addon published by Aerosoft.http://www.aerosoft.com/cgi-local/us/iboshop.cgi?showd,6497848550,10544_1

HI Folks;

 

Am I correct in assuming that the yellow taxi guidance lines (arrows) do not work with the NY JFK V2 product? I am looking to purchase this product and if that's the case, then that's a concern for me. I use the big hubs all the time and trying to get the correct runway is a challenge without it. I have tied using the overhead view etc.etc. to find my way around and I waste too much time.

 

I never use a 3rd party produce for ATC and I don't intend to buy one. I use the MS FSX default ATC for taxing (yellow lines) to and from a gate and it works well.

 

Please let me know if I am correct in assuming that this option doesn't work.

 

Thank again.

 

Forshaw

HI Folks;

 

Am I correct in assuming that the yellow taxi guidance lines (arrows) do not work with the NY JFK V2 product? I am looking to purchase this product and if that's the case, then that's a concern for me. I use the big hubs all the time and trying to get the correct runway is a challenge without it. I have tied using the overhead view etc.etc. to find my way around and I waste too much time.

 

I never use a 3rd party produce for ATC and I don't intend to buy one. I use the MS FSX default ATC for taxing (yellow lines) to and from a gate and it works well.

 

Please let me know if I am correct in assuming that this option doesn't work.

 

Thank again.

 

Forshaw

The progressive taxi line does not work with most of the newer FSDT airports due to the way they use shades to render the ground textures. This includes JFK. However, using the free airport chart that is included with the airport makes it easy to find your way around if you read the taxi signs. Assuming you are flying complex airliners into or out of JFK, like PMDG level aircraft, using the airport chart and taxi instructions should be a snap.

 

Or else, if you don't want to use that method you'll have to either use the default, BluePrint, or DD versions of JFK.

 

BTW, in case your wondering why FSDT would produce an airport that doesn't make the progressive taxi line work, it's not because they are stupid or made a mistake. On the contrary, they use the shader to render the ground textures because it reduces overhead and increases performance doing it with this method. If you try the DD version of JFK you will get to use the progressive taxi line but the airport performs much worse in terms of FPS and VAS usage.

Thanks very much for your response and explanation and it does make sense and I appreciate it, It's not that much of an issue getting from the gate to the runway however, getting from the runway to the gate after landing is more of challenge. I tried it a few times without the taxi aid and with an airport chat and great signs, still an issue :huh:

 

Having said that, If others can figure it out I guess I should take the time and do it.

 

Thanks again for the advice, will give it a try.

 

Kindest Regards.

 

Forshaw.

Thanks very much for your response and explanation and it does make sense and I appreciate it, It's not that much of an issue getting from the gate to the runway however, getting from the runway to the gate after landing is more of challenge. I tried it a few times without the taxi aid and with an airport chat and great signs, still an issue :huh:

 

Having said that, If others can figure it out I guess I should take the time and do it.

 

Thanks again for the advice, will give it a try.

 

Kindest Regards.

 

Forshaw.

If you're not completely adverse to a payware solution, I would recommend FSDT's GSX. You can use the follow me truck for taxi guidance from Runway to gate, plus you get all the other ground crew functions. Now including De-icing!! (Of course we're heading into Spring and Summer now ) You would still be on your own for departure though.

I use FSXs' P.T option, but I have noticed and perhaps it only happens to me because of my specs that the Yellow lines become very curvy and wide the more addons I put into my sim, but it still is usable.

 

Berlopez

I use FSC on another screen mostly, so that I can see where I am.  But I find that sometimes FSX  air traffic control doesn't always recognize that you are that  in the correct parking spot, or at least where it thinks you should be. This means that you cannot request take off clearance when you want to go again. I therefore have to switch to progressive taxi and move until the arrows disappear.

 

Reading these posts I notice that a lot of you are spelling Taxiing or Taxying as Taxing,(one i,) which to me means something that is difficult, or the government after money. Is this a U.S. spelling or are you all making a mistake?

If you're not completely adverse to a payware solution, I would recommend FSDT's GSX. You can use the follow me truck for taxi guidance from Runway to gate, plus you get all the other ground crew functions. Now including De-icing!! (Of course we're heading into Spring and Summer now ) You would still be on your own for departure though.

So, I did go ahead and purchase the product right after my last post. I do like the product but still trying to come to grips with no lines. I did try taxing to the gate after a landing and it took me the devil's own job to find the gate, yes I got lost. I do fly the 747 PMDG and have my sliders all to the right for best display. My rig is powerfull so no issues with FPS. I have my FRare set to 30 max and never goes below 28-29 regardless where I fly or what addons.

 

Now for the interesting part. I did notice that small yellow taxi lines showed up for about 15 seconds and then faded away. This happened twice and then faded permanently. Any idea why the lines would show at all if they are not supposed to. Would be great if it stayed on   

 

Thanks again.

 

Forshaw.

I use FSXs' P.T option, but I have noticed and perhaps it only happens to me because of my specs that the Yellow lines become very curvy and wide the more addons I put into my sim, but it still is usable.

 

Berlopez

Hi Berlopez;

 

Sorry what is PT option?

 

Regards.

Forshaw

Forshaw. I apologize i simply abbreviated Progressive Taxiing

 

Berlopez

Hi,

I haven't read over this thread completely so I apologize if I'm being repetitious. 

Holger Maas created a gauge (pop up) called AP Chart (apchart.zip).  It appears that in reality it would be close to the size of an IPad.  Once installed it reads all the data from every airport in the current installation.  If your default flight is at an airport the info for that airport will be initially displayed.  The airport itself is graphically displayed with runways, taxiways (with designations) parking spaces (numbered) and your current position.  The display can be zoomed and scrolled.  A wealth of other airport info is also available.  It is the next best thing to having the actual airport chart.  I never have a need to bring up the map.  I do select the info for the airport I intend to land at when I'm 20 or so miles out (if I didn't select it initially by entering the ICAO).  From the frequency info I can tune the radios without needing to use the ATC window.  All the Comm frequencies are displayed along with the airport altitude.

There are a couple of problems but there are workarounds;  the airport data will not initially load nor update without going into Safe mode on newer OSs (it was designed for XP) and unless you can figure out someway for ATC to tell you the parking space number you still have to turn on progressive taxi  to find the exact spot.  You can still follow the taxiways specified by AT until you get to the parking area.

The first thing I do for every aircraft, is to edit the panel.cfg so that AP Chart can be brought up by the left trigger button on my yoke or an equally convenient button on my joystick.  I seldom exit a runway in the wrong direction.  I can't imagine flying without it.

And in the US taxiing is correct.

Jim F.

This is how bad my Progressive taxiing can be if I have too many addons in my FSX\old Installation.

 

LUCKILY; Sometimes the error is in the airports' design, like in this case. The author sent out a fix so no complaints.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5vv0sj0zomjtyjg/2014-5-31_9-46-9-181.BMP?dl=0

 

Berlopez

Now for the interesting part. I did notice that small yellow taxi lines showed up for about 15 seconds and then faded away. This happened twice and then faded permanently. Any idea why the lines would show at all if they are not supposed to. Would be great if it stayed on

 

 

The taxi lines come and go due to the way they use shades to render the ground polys, that's why the PT feature is not supported with their newer airports. Although as you noticed they will show from time to time in certain areas of the airport but not everywhere.