Revisiting neglected planes - Duke B60

[ryanbatc 12,836]

Oooh.... Will have to revisit the piston Duke!

[RudiJG1 172]

When RealAir speaks...people listen.

 

Sweet news, indeed.

[Serge 8]

We will be soon be updating the Piston Duke to RealAir Legacy sound and visual effects standards, and a slightly revised flight model that enhances what is already there. Then we will work on the Duke Turbine in a similar manner. Our aircraft are made for the long term.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Rob - RealAir

 

Hi Rob,

 

Will this also include the option to disable the VC click spots (for Track IR users) and being able to use the mouse wheel for switches similar to the Turbine?

 

I always find it frustrating when going from the Turbine to the Piston and having the VC view change with a misplaced mouse click or using the mouse wheel to turn on the fuel or flick a switch and nothing happens. It would be great to get these features consistent between the two aircraft.

 

Regards,

Serge

[dcgator29 37]

You can remove those vc click spots yourself

[KingGhidorah 209]

A most unexpected development. I don't have the Legacy, but I do have both Dukes and I wasn't even aware that they were a candidate for an upgrade. I don't always fly GA planes, but when I do, I fly the Dukes, so there is no need for me to revisit them. Still, news that they'll be made better still, put me in a good mood.

[JesC 88]

You can remove those vc click spots yourself

 

How, pray tell??

 

I'm really looking forward to updates to this exceptional aircraft!! Thanks RealAir!

[JimmiG 244]

Ah yes, the Piston Duke.. I bought the Turbine Duke but never got the piston one. I've been considering it, but I feel similar to "beoxx" - the Turbine version is faster, needs less runway, climbs faster and just seems more exciting and fun. For piston twins, I prefer the Milviz C310 and Carenado C337.

 

Great that an update is coming for the Dukes. I hope the improvements will work in P3D too, not just in legacy FSX.

 

Thinking about the planes I have that I don't fly enough, the Carenado Commander 114 and the Eaglesoft DA42 come to mind. Also the Aerosoft DA20 - I always wish it was a little faster. The Carenado T182T is a plane I would like to fly more, but I always end up picking something else due to the frame rate issues. Once the FPS patch comes out, I'll definitely spend more time with it.

[tttocs 301]

 

 

Ah yes, the Piston Duke.. I bought the Turbine Duke but never got the piston one. I've been considering it, but I feel similar to "beoxx" - the Turbine version is faster, needs less runway, climbs faster and just seems more exciting and fun. For piston twins, I prefer the Milviz C310 and Carenado C337.

 

In my case, I've put more time in the 337 and the Milviz B55.  As mentioned, when I thought Duke, I thought turbine, despite having the piston.  I've changed my mind.

 

So why fly it when the Turbine version is "better"?  First and foremost, "better" involves more than just raw numbers.  Start with the fact that piston GA is really what I know and where my flying heart lives, and what I'm re-discovering is that the B60 is a great piston twin.  In other words, as soon as I stopped thinking Duke = Turbine and started thinking of them as two completely different things, the attraction of the piston version shone through - I now think of it as a step up from my light piston twins, not a step down from my turbo-prop.  The Turbine version will still see plenty of time - when I want to fly a turbine.

 

Several practical things distinguish the two Dukes as well - I fly my planes the way they'd be flown in real life, and that has ramifications with the Turbine Duke, where airframe limits, fuel costs and burn rate dictate a normal flight regime of get high, fast.  The Duke is great at this with its amazing climb rate, but I'm not as fond of flying at FL250 as I am down lower, especially in the scenic US West were I spend most of my time.  The B60 can, and typically would be, flown differently.  The B60 can go into the flight levels, but won't for many flight profiles.  I can spend time flying in the mid teens on mountain IFR flights, meet MEAs that can't be easily met in my other piston twins, but still see the sights while flying at respectable speeds, and I like that.  Sure you can do that in the T-Duke as well - but you wouldn't.

 

So, there ya go.  Two different planes, both good in their own ways.

 

Scott

[Gregg_Seipp 568]

 

 

but I'm not as fond of flying at FL250 as I am down lower

 

Have to agree there.  I started out flying the Duke before the Turbine...sorta felt like the Turbine was a bit much of a handful.  But, a friend mentioned how much he loved flying it so I took the time to learn it.  Yeah...it's a handful.  In terms of the sim it's got some nicer features.  I do fly it in the mid to high teens a fair amount because, well, vgas and maintenance is free and I do love to look at the world.  I find both of the planes more immersive than any plane I fly, in part because I could see myself flying them RW, in part because everything is implemented and done amazingly well...so much so that I sometimes just let myself believe it's not a sim.   Just fly.  If I had any wish it would be that Rob would make a similar quality plane that didn't have big wings and engines hiding so much of the world.  But, I'm a happy clam.

[mmann 72]

I find the RealAir Spitfire is a plane I often forget but just seems so right, when I remember to fly it. I have the A2A Spitfire with Accu-Sim but for some reason it just doesn't do it for me.

[Ron Attwood 3,464]

It's funny you should bring this up. :cool: Only last night on Back Country Prop Club either you Gregg or Rob asked about the B60 piston only to be told it's a multiplayer flooder. Dang!(or words to that effect) was the response to that.

@Rob Realair, can something be done about the flooding, while you're playing with an update? The Duke Turbine doesn't flood.

[Gregg_Seipp 568]

 

 

Dang!(or words to that effect) was the response to that.

 

I was the 'dang' (or words to that effect) 'er.

[ryanbatc 12,836]

but I'm not as fond of flying at FL250

 

Fly on Pilot Edge where you'll be assigned TEC routes hehe... TEC routes... Where planes are created equal hehe.

[robert young 2,897]

It's funny you should bring this up. :cool: Only last night on Back Country Prop Club either you Gregg or Rob asked about the B60 piston only to be told it's a multiplayer flooder. Dang!(or words to that effect) was the response to that.

@Rob Realair, can something be done about the flooding, while you're playing with an update? The Duke Turbine doesn't flood.

Hi Ron,

 

Yes, we will be reducing the multiplayer flooding on the piston duke so it is on a par with the turbine version fix. I can confirm we will also provided clickspot removal options for Track IR users.

 

Regards,

 

Rob - RealAir

[Ron Attwood 3,464]

Top man Rob! Do us a favour and have a word with Carenado about their C337 and the 206H will you? Show 'em how it's done! :lol: