Sids/Stars and Vox

[red259 31]

I'm having a lot of difficulty setting up my flight plans. I never receive sids/star options from vox. On takeoff I am told to fly direct to the first waypoint. If I can just fly direct to the first waypoint then what is the purpose of using a sid?  I make a FP with FSC and then cut and paste it into EFB. Do I need to purchase navdata in order for vox to use sids/stars? I tried a flight from KLAX to KLAS today and I didn't get told the runway assignment until I was almost on top of it, which resulted in a missed approach. Are most people planning their runway landing before takeoff, or waiting until vox assigns a runway? I'm flying the 737 ngx and using rex for weather. 

[agutz 13]

@ I make a FP with FSC and then cut and paste it into EFB.

EFB can process FSC generated FPs. Perhaps the problem is copy/paste related.

 

@ Do I need to purchase navdata in order for vox to use sids/stars? You have to make sure that all 3 apps (EFB, FSC, Vox) are using the same cycle.

 

@ Are most people planning their runway landing before takeoff, or waiting until vox assigns a runway? Vox should assign a runway and (if apprpriate) a STAR.

 

Can you post the FSC generated FP?

[agutz 13]

PS

The reason I was asking for your FSC FP is that FPs have to be set up properly so a SID/STAR can be attached to it.

FSC sometimes needs a bit of editing. Since you have EFB you can do everything in EFB. Use RouteFinder. This gives the following FP for your flight:

 

KLAX (SID) DAG (STAR) KLAS

 

In fact DAG is the end of a SID and the beginning of a STAR.

 

I hope Vox can handle that. (Assuming rwy 25R on both ends that would probably be SEBBY7 and CRESO3)

[red259 31]

PS

The reason I was asking for your FSC FP is that FPs have to be set up properly so a SID/STAR can be attached to it.

FSC sometimes needs a bit of editing. Since you have EFB you can do everything in EFB. Use RouteFinder. This gives the following FP for your flight:

 

KLAX (SID) DAG (STAR) KLAS

 

In fact DAG is the end of a SID and the beginning of a STAR.

 

I hope Vox can handle that. (Assuming rwy 25R on both ends that would probably be SEBBY7 and CRESO3)

On FSC I get KLAX BOILE J50 PDZ J60 CIVET J107 BLD KLAS.   When I use route finder through efb I get klax dag klas. I purchased a cycle of navdata and I notice vox now assigning me sids, although its a bit confusing because they assign me a sid going the opposite direction and then want me to vector on my own to the first flight point so i'm not sure the point of giving me a specific sid with no direct transitions. Trying to fly from montreal to kjfk I got a direction to fly kingston niner. I had no idea how to do that. I did an internet search and found a flight chart so I am assuming I need to punch in the waypoints on that approach plan (for example, ign to lolly to doore to lendy to lga to final). Is there an easier way? I need to try the flight again and see if they gave me a runway assignment at the time and then I could try to select the ign star in fmc to pull up this approach? The first time it happened I had no idea what they were talking about and I spent like five minutes trying to type kingston into the fmc. 

 

 

I hope Vox can handle that. (Assuming rwy 25R on both ends that would probably be SEBBY7 and CRESO3)

 

I used the creso3 star on a recent klas flight , although the vox atc was directing me off the path a bit, which I did not understand since the landing route laid out by my fmc seemed to be perfect.

[agutz 13]

"kingston niner" is IGN9 (It's all in EFB!)

No need to punch, your FMC's (same airac cycle?) DEP/ARR page will certainly display IGN9.