LPPT to LEMD - Lisbon to Madrid.

[JonFly 7]

Can anyone recommend a SID for departing LPPT and a STAR for LEMD.  Trying to decipher the options in Spanish is beyond this newbies skillset.

 

I also see runways at LEMD mentioned online that I cannot find on maps.google.com.  (32r for example) I see 33

 

I would like to shoot an ILS approach to 33R

 

I am planning on flying this tonight in my NGX

 

Thanks for any assistance.

 

Routefinder shows

 

PPT (0.0nm) -SID-> BUSEN (42.9nm) -UN870-> LUTAK (297.6nm) -DCT-> 
DEMOS (692.1nm) -UN741-> STG (765.1nm) -UN733-> FORNO (815.1nm) -UN733-> 
FINAM (820.0nm) -UN733-> BARKO (843.8nm) -UN733-> GASBA (870.7nm) -UN733-> 
ZMR (914.7nm) -STAR-> LEMD (1028.3nm)

 

Details:

 

ID FREQ TRK DIST Coords Name/Remarks
LPPT 0 0 N38°46'27.02" W009°08'02.51" LISBOA
BUSEN 253 43 N38°32'41.98" W010°00'00.00" BUSEN
LUTAK 252 255 N37°00'00.00" W015°00'00.00" LUTAK
DEMOS 42 394 N41°55'32.50" W009°21'43.20" DEMOS
STG 116.4 36 73 N42°55'36.70" W008°25'31.40" SANTIAGO
FORNO 125 50 N42°28'05.20" W007°28'53.30" FORNO
FINAM 125 5 N42°25'19.80" W007°23'18.90" FINAM
BARKO 125 24 N42°12'02.20" W006°56'40.60" BARKO
GASBA 125 27 N41°56'52.20" W006°26'45.40" GASBA
ZMR 117.1 126 44 N41°31'48.70" W005°38'22.90" ZAMORA
LEMD 124 114 N40°28'20.00" W003°33'39.00" MADRID/BARAJAS

[JonFly 7]

I am trying a demo of EFB From AivlaSoft, unfortunately at cruise altitue I get a stutter using this but I am using it outside of FSX and or P3D to try flight planning.. This is a route I found for the above question... So may not need your help but any thoughts, comments questions are welcome

 

LPPT

D059T

ALAMA

FTM

BARDI

TLD

TOBEK

CI33R

FI33R

LEMD

 

This is using SID FTM9N and STAR BAR1DC

 

I really hope I can solve the stutter issue I have with this EFB program as it is really cool!

[JonFly 7]

okay here is an even better flight plan... see attached pic

[machine2035 176]

Can anyone recommend a SID for departing LPPT and a STAR for LEMD.  Trying to decipher the options in Spanish is beyond this newbies skillset.

 

I also see runways at LEMD mentioned online that I cannot find on maps.google.com.  (32r for example) I see 33

 

I would like to shoot an ILS approach to 33R

 

I am planning on flying this tonight in my NGX

 

Thanks for any assistance.

 

Routefinder shows

 

PPT (0.0nm) -SID-> BUSEN (42.9nm) -UN870-> LUTAK (297.6nm) -DCT-> 

DEMOS (692.1nm) -UN741-> STG (765.1nm) -UN733-> FORNO (815.1nm) -UN733-> 

FINAM (820.0nm) -UN733-> BARKO (843.8nm) -UN733-> GASBA (870.7nm) -UN733-> 

ZMR (914.7nm) -STAR-> LEMD (1028.3nm)

 

Details:

 

ID FREQ TRK DIST Coords Name/Remarks

LPPT 0 0 N38°46'27.02" W009°08'02.51" LISBOA

BUSEN 253 43 N38°32'41.98" W010°00'00.00" BUSEN

LUTAK 252 255 N37°00'00.00" W015°00'00.00" LUTAK

DEMOS 42 394 N41°55'32.50" W009°21'43.20" DEMOS

STG 116.4 36 73 N42°55'36.70" W008°25'31.40" SANTIAGO

FORNO 125 50 N42°28'05.20" W007°28'53.30" FORNO

FINAM 125 5 N42°25'19.80" W007°23'18.90" FINAM

BARKO 125 24 N42°12'02.20" W006°56'40.60" BARKO

GASBA 125 27 N41°56'52.20" W006°26'45.40" GASBA

ZMR 117.1 126 44 N41°31'48.70" W005°38'22.90" ZAMORA

LEMD 124 114 N40°28'20.00" W003°33'39.00" MADRID/BARAJAS

 

Hi Jon,

 

Sorry for a rather belated response.

 

Unfortunately rfinder isn't the best resource for finding routes, especially in Europe which are bound by many restrictions which are noted in countries AIP's/Airway Manuals.

 

After a quick search, and a confirmation through the CFMU Route validator, this is the correct route for your flight;

 

IDBID DCT PORLI DCT OGERO UZ409 TODNO

 

Regarding the SID/STAR, it is going to depend on what runway you are departing and arriving on. While the departure/arrival waypoint (or gate) will be the same (so IDBID and TODNO), the number/letter proceeding it will be different.

 

However for education purposes, I am going to assume that Runway 03 is in use for departures at Lisbon (LPPT) and 32R for arrivals into Madrid (LEMD).

 

Therefore after consulting our charts (you can do so via AivlaSoft EFB), we can see that for a departure on 03 we would use the IDBID2N (as our first point on our route is IDBID). For the arrival (STAR), we would fly the TODNO1C arrival (as our last point is TODNO).

 

Some useful resources when flying in Europe and to find routes are;

 

Vatroute: http://www.vatroute.net

CFMU Route Validator: http://validation.eurofpl.eu/

 

If you use those two tools correctly, mainly for Europe flying, you will always have a correct route, going along airways in the correct way and altitude, aswell as a route which links up with current SIDS/STARS.

 

I hope this helped you out, and if you have any questions post them here!