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OOMs related to PMDG aircraft? All my recent OOMs have been related to scenery.

 

What about the 2D popup with the MFD set to the ECL? Does the cursor feature work the same in 2D popups?

 yes to the ECL question, all works fine

 

as far as OOM or CTD goes, there has been neither seen by me in any of my flights or any reported by another beta testers to my knowledge. She is running as sweet as a nut!

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Did you have a chance to look at the introductory documentation and the tutorial flight?

 

Neither have been released to the beta team yet, so nope!  Not just yet.

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Rest assured that every last detail of this aircraft, every nook and cranny has been recreated with such incredible precision. I was impressed with the 737NGX, with the 777 I am blown away, seriously! Every last detail has been taken care of, and every detail of those little details!

 

 

What I can tell you is that the 777 has significantly increased frame rate performance over and above the NGX.

 

Wow! those words hold alot of weight. That is just amazing that they can pull this off as FSX continues to age and we push its boundaries more and more.  So exciting. What a privledge to be a beta tester for the rolls royce of FSX developers. Thanks for your insight.

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Something I am very pleased with - the proportions of the flight deck are simply perfect. Notice how the glareshield properly projects forward in to the cockpit. Don't you hate it when panels make the glareshield seem flat to the gauges? Not in this aircraft!

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I'd be curious to hear your impression of 'weight' when you're at heavy/max take off weights.

 

How do you find performance after a 14 hour flight? The "OOM" is obviously a big concern in the community (personally, I've never had one) and blasting a 14 hour flight could cause issues. Do you run any add-on scenery?

 

You feel the weight, I have done a few 14+ hour flights in the last two weeks. YVR-SYD-YVR, YVR-HKG-YVR, SEA-DXB-SEA and YYZ-HKG-YYZ (via the Polar Route) and those flights have departed with the MTOW averaging 700,000 lbs of cargo and fuel. The 200LR is the hot rod of the 777s, you get really good climb rates even at MTOW. Its a bit unnerving to see the end of the runway approach quickly when you hit your VR (around 170kts give or take a few knots). The 200LR ain't no slouch when it comes to flying and has too much power attached to it.  

 

Try taking off with 80,000lbs of fuel and no cargo or pax, your climbing out at 6000 fpm with your airspeed still increasing, you will break through flap retraction speeds in a hurry. You need to be on your toes... its fun, like a 757 on double dosage of steroids. I think personally, way more fun than flying a 757.

 

Cheers,

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Non Normal checklist for an autothrottle failure

 

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16 categories of non-normal checklist, each menu item spinning off in to further checklists for just about every eventuality.. The checklists are interactive too! responding both to pilot input and onboard sensors which monitor aircraft status

 

How does one interact with that checklist? Have they made it touch screen? 

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You feel the weight, I have done a few 14+ hour flights in the last two weeks. YVR-SYD-YVR, YVR-HKG-YVR, SEA-DXB-SEA and YYZ-HKG-YYZ (via the Polar Route) and those flights have departed with the MTOW averaging 700,000 lbs of cargo and fuel. The 200LR is the hot rod of the 777s, you get really good climb rates even at MTOW. Its a bit unnerving to see the end of the runway approach quickly when you hit your VR (around 170kts give or take a few knots). The 200LR ain't no slouch when it comes to flying and has too much power attached to it.  

 

Try taking off with 80,000lbs of fuel and no cargo or pax, your climbing out at 6000 fpm with your airspeed still increasing, you will break through flap retraction speeds in a hurry. You need to be on your toes... its fun, like a 757 on double dosage of steroids. I think personally, way more fun than flying a 757.

 

Cheers,

 

Cheers, Jason. Appreciate it.

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You feel the weight, I have done a few 14+ hour flights in the last two weeks. YVR-SYD-YVR, YVR-HKG-YVR, SEA-DXB-SEA and YYZ-HKG-YYZ (via the Polar Route) and those flights have departed with the MTOW averaging 700,000 lbs of cargo and fuel. The 200LR is the hot rod of the 777s, you get really good climb rates even at MTOW. Its a bit unnerving to see the end of the runway approach quickly when you hit your VR (around 170kts give or take a few knots). The 200LR ain't no slouch when it comes to flying and has too much power attached to it.  

 

Try taking off with 80,000lbs of fuel and no cargo or pax, your climbing out at 6000 fpm with your airspeed still increasing, you will break through flap retraction speeds in a hurry. You need to be on your toes... its fun, like a 757 on double dosage of steroids. I think personally, way more fun than flying a 757.

 

Cheers,

 

Jason is absolutely right, you fly this plane and you think you have got yourself a new job at NASA!

 

Of course as Jason is the developer he knows better than me, but I can tell you that all the climb and performance figures are COMPLETELY accurate at all weights and power settings.

 

There is one word that describes a climbout with a lightly loaded 777LR - exhilarating!!

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Jane,

 

It all sounds amazing. Especially the time compression feature.

 

So how long does Beta testing last?

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Jane,

 

It all sounds amazing. Especially the time compression feature.

 

Dave it is amazing seriously. RSR gave us complete freedom to say what we like and what we don't like in the forums and you know what, none of us can find a thing that is not pitch perfect with this aircraft. That is genuine and serious!

 

We keep getting OMG moments in the testing group, like for example when the first one of us got notified (complete with an EICAS message!) that the cabin was now secure for departure!

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Will you be doing the same in-depth features as you are currently doing for the NGX in PCP?

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A wing view with flaps all the way down and spoilers up would be awesome too!  :rolleyes:

 

Thank you for the fantastic previews Jane!

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A wing view with flaps all the way down and spoilers up would be awesome too! 

 

There is a wing view that's set up perfectly for that.  Hopefully someone else will post something for you.  If not, I'll remind myself to do it Sunday when I get back home and back to the sim.

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 RSR gave us complete freedom to say what we like and what we don't like in the forums and you know what, none of us can find a thing that is not pitch perfect with this aircraft. That is genuine and serious!

 

We keep getting OMG moments in the testing group, like for example when the first one of us got notified (complete with an EICAS message!) that the cabin was now secure for departure!

The more I read, the bigger my smile gets. I am truly excited for this. Is finding nothing that is not pitch perfect a good thing? Beta will be short?

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can anyone confirm that a system performing well the ngx will perform well this most promesing product?

I'm flying on a good system, but still a laptop, and no way to change, because my job makes me travel all the time ...

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Besides the CDU, what 2D panels are there? I know there isn't a complete 2D panel, but are there pop outs for the PFD, ND, etc? Or the MCP perhaps?

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I hope we get to hear the sounds of those engine spooling up and takeoff reallly soon.  This excitment is boiling over in the community. Great marketing strategy!!

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A wing view with flaps all the way down and spoilers up would be awesome too!  :rolleyes:

 

Thank you for the fantastic previews Jane!

 

Not quite what you asked for, but here's a couple shots of my arrival into PHNL last night.

 

 

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Besides the CDU, what 2D panels are there? I know there isn't a complete 2D panel, but are there pop outs for the PFD, ND, etc? Or the MCP perhaps?

Jorge,

 

Yes, there are popups for all of the screens, the MCP, all three CDU's, and a little one that has the COM1 radio, and transponder controls on it.

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A FDX 777F shot from one of the inspection windows would be nice. Also, some night pics. Thanks

 

FDX706

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This sounds just awesome, can't wait till it's released!  :smile:

 

I think I will retire the MD-11 from regular routes when the 777 comes out and use it for charter flights instead.

 

 

Regards

 

Joona L

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