I know FTX regions and UTX were not compatible even when used in different regions. And now that FTXGlobal introduced that Hybrid switch, I'm thinking if I could install FTX EU England over UTX Europe in the scenery library, turn Hybrid mode on in FTXGlobal, then enable both FTX England and UTX Europe and fly between England to Europe? Honestly I'm even afraid just to enable FTX England and UTX Europe at the same time and enter FSX. Has anybody experimented with this yet?

 

Thanks,

Dirk.

I know FTX regions and UTX were not compatible even when used in different regions. And now that FTXGlobal introduced that Hybrid switch, I'm thinking if I could install FTX EU England over UTX Europe in the scenery library, turn Hybrid mode on in FTXGlobal, then enable both FTX England and UTX Europe and fly between England to Europe? Honestly I'm even afraid just to enable FTX England and UTX Europe at the same time and enter FSX. Has anybody experimented with this yet?

 

Thanks,

Dirk.

 

I have various FTX regions installed including England, Wales and Scotland, plus I am using UTX USA, Canada, Europe.

 

No problems whatsoever as long as you follow the ORBX guidelines regarding scenery library order (FTX above UTX).

 

There may be some UTX features to disable (night lighting) but overall FTX Global and UTX outside of full FTX regions are a match made in heaven.

 

When set up correctly flying from FTX England to Europe (UTX) is great given the road networks, coastlines, waterbodies etc that UTX provides.

 

Regards, Daz

I own FTX ENG, UTX EU, and FTX Global......... and fly permanently with "FTX Global" activated in FTX Central, and with the "Hybrid Mode" checked.

 

UTX is installed and is below FTX Eng.     FTX Global's entries are in 'the middle' (between UTX which is below them, and FTX ENG which is above them).

 

No issues at all, and wonderful seamless flights between FTX ENG, and FTX Global (Europe).

 

....At last !!!

Excellent!

 

Thanks, guys.

Dirk.

Installing FTX Eng did you have to 'fast' disable UTX Europe? Then did you turn them all On (including Hybrid in FTXGlob) together in one pass?

 

Thanks,

Dirk.

Oops... many have already posted...

 

You do not need to disable UTX Europe before installing FTX EU ENG. Just make sure the insertion point of FTX is above the UTX entries. With respect to FTX Global, it is best to switch off the UTX night lighting function, as it is a much harder FPS hit than the FTX G version... one or the other really...

 

Though, FTX Global does not add lighting to the vector roads of UTX yet. This is something I belive OrbX are working on...

 

A

/\ /\ /\ ...Yes, DEFINITELY go into the UTX Config Manager and turn off it's night lighting (it's a frame rate killer. plus FTX Global has it's own, far superior, night lighting that is very frame friendly).

 

But basically, don't stress you'll be fine! :smile:

 

Just ensure you have your FTX Regions (eg ENG) above FTX Global, then FTX Global, then UTX....

 

One other thing - if you install a FTX Region, after FTX Global, it can screw up the "FTX Central" tool, by removing the 'Hybrid' option (due to replacing the current FTX Central version with an older version!).

 

But Orbx have gotten round this by releasing a "Core Files" libraries package on their support page.  Whenever anything gets screwed up with FTX Central etc (for example if you installed a really old FTC region like Australia, after a relatively new one), just run the "Core Files Libraries" and it sorts everything out to be at the latest version.  :smile:

 

 

Yes, DEFINITELY go into the UTX Config Manager and turn off it's night lighting (it's a frame rate killer. plus FTX Global has it's own, far superior, night lighting that is very frame friendly).

 

I did, but no highway lights from FSGlobal  :(

As I understood from OrbX forum support, this has to do with the way highways are defined in UTX and they're looking to fix it. Hope it's incorporated into the first update.

I can't be 100% sure but I think I got this too, and I found that disabling the UTX lights, then re-installing FTX Global (I just installed it over the top again, no uninstall necessary as same version etc)) resulted in the FTXG lights working?

Not exactly on the same subject but I have had some issues with FTX EU and FTX Global and if there are scenery layering guidelines at ORBX someone might please point me there.

 

Bournmeouth (EGHH) is one of my old hometowns and FXT England does a masterful job with it. So when I installed FTX Global I set Hybrid mode in ORBX Central and checked out EGHH again. The textures and landclass there were very wrong. I have Scenerytech Europe and enabling that in the Libray improved things but nowhere near as good at the default FTX England. I disabled Scenerytech.

 

A favourite flight is EGHH to LFPG (Charles de Gaule, Paris) - its short, and keeps you busy. I use P3D, PMDG NGX, REX/Opus, FS2Crew, PFE. I have UTX/GEX but prefer 100% FTX. So, I am disappointed that FTX Global in Hybrid mode won't give me the same EGHH textures/Landclass as I get with FTX England applied in ORBX Central. Unless I am missing something. Or maybe I need to search the forums over at ORBX.

 

Any ideas welcome.

 

Cheers,

Not exactly on the same subject but I have had some issues with FTX EU and FTX Global and if there are scenery layering guidelines at ORBX someone might please point me there.

 

Bournmeouth (EGHH) is one of my old hometowns and FXT England does a masterful job with it. So when I installed FTX Global I set Hybrid mode in ORBX Central and checked out EGHH again. The textures and landclass there were very wrong. I have Scenerytech Europe and enabling that in the Libray improved things but nowhere near as good at the default FTX England. I disabled Scenerytech.

 

A favourite flight is EGHH to LFPG (Charles de Gaule, Paris) - its short, and keeps you busy. I use P3D, PMDG NGX, REX/Opus, FS2Crew, PFE. I have UTX/GEX but prefer 100% FTX. So, I am disappointed that FTX Global in Hybrid mode won't give me the same EGHH textures/Landclass as I get with FTX England applied in ORBX Central. Unless I am missing something. Or maybe I need to search the forums over at ORBX.

 

Any ideas welcome.

 

Cheers,

 

Just a question, do you have SceneryTech Europe under FTX England in the library? Also why would you need SceneryTech at all if you have UTX Europe? UTX Europe has a good LC, including vegetation, and  it's better than in UTX USA. Only in UTX USA is where SceneryTech NA can be suggested in the sandwich above vegetation LC. 

 

Dirk.

One other thing - if you install a FTX Region, after FTX Global, it can screw up the "FTX Central" tool, by removing the 'Hybrid' option (due to replacing the current FTX Central version with an older version!).

 

But Orbx have gotten round this by releasing a "Core Files" libraries package on their support page.  Whenever anything gets screwed up with FTX Central etc (for example if you installed a really old FTC region like Australia, after a relatively new one), just run the "Core Files Libraries" and it sorts everything out to be at the latest version.   :smile:

 

Thanks, Dave.

 

Can't I just reinstall/overwright FTX Global again over FTX England then?

 

Dirk.

Any advice to OpenLC placement in the library? I have mine placed above my UTX entries at the moment. I have tried placing between UTX Landclass Urban and Veg but noticed no difference.

Any advice to OpenLC placement in the library? I have mine placed above my UTX entries at the moment. I have tried placing between UTX Landclass Urban and Veg but noticed no difference.

 

Since I installed FTX Global before UTX (Europe and USA) the 2 entries with OPENLC in scenery.cfg are below UTX entries. So this is a good valid question, anybody?

 

Thanks,

Dirk.

Hi Dirk,

 

It's just that I had the SceneryTech LC in an archive and read that FTX can work with it. Purely investigative. I tried it above FTX England initially, and that was only because EGHH looked odd with ORBX Central set to Global.  I tried it below also, but soon realised that if I wanted FTX England in all its glory I'd have to go back and re-apply Europe in ORBX Central.

 

This is what disappointed me, as one of the drivers for me becoming an early adopter of FTX Global was the so-called 'Hybrid' setting which I thought would allow me to start in the south of England (EGHH) and have it look 'as if' FTX England was applied, then jump the English Channel to Paris and see FTX Global/World textures there. 

 

However ... and I need to go back and verify this when I have a bit more time but I tried applying FTX England and then moving to Paris (LFPG) and I got the Global textures there anyway. I.e without Global/Hybrid being selected in ORBX Central. 

 

I didn't follow JV's graphic posted elsewhere explaining FTX LC and layering, but I have learned that FTX isn't scenery-layering critical. Even so I would like to understand the effects of applying FTX Regions more fully, and will continue to experiment. Perhaps there are some solid guidelines to be found somewhere over at ORBX, as they don't do things by halves.  All in all, as a fairly casual simmer I am very pleased with my decision to walk the ORBX trail thus far. 

 

Cheers, 

This is interesting.  I fly a lot out of my old hometown, EGNT, and I swear that apart from some autogen differences, the texture and landclass set up that I see around there is exactly the same in 'FTX Global / Hybrid Mode', as it is in pure 'FTX Europe' mode.

 

Not very scientific but sometimes cycling the active modes within FTX Central (between default, Global, and a region) can correct some anomolies.    Other than that, I can only guess that what you are seeing is some sort of issues caused by the sequence of entries in your Scenery Library Gareth.

 

Broadly speaking, I have;-

 

==========================

TOP OF SCENERY LIBRARY

 

FTX ENG

FTX SCO

FTX PNW

FTX CRM

FTX Global's two LC entries

Ultimate Terrain Europe

 

BOTTOM OF SCENERY LIBRARY

==========================

 

 

 

Gareth, one thing you could try, is installing this  (from the Orbx website) :-

 

http://myftx.com/orbxfreeware/FTXORBXLIBS_130723_CORE.zip

 

It is a "Core Software" update that will ensure that you're FTX Central and all aspects of FTX's "engine" is up to date.  

 

I find it advisable to install this after any FTX installation, as it ensures that the most up to date 'FTX Central Engine' is controlling the regions, and not an older verison, as can happen.

However ... and I need to go back and verify this when I have a bit more time but I tried applying FTX England and then moving to Paris (LFPG) and I got the Global textures there anyway. I.e without Global/Hybrid being selected in ORBX Central.

 

Because FTXG replaces the default textures you will indeed see the FTXG textures outside of FTX regions, even when you have a region active. Only drawback is that you can't have more than one FTX region active (but I wonder how many people actually fly from one region to another...) and you may get some little errors and odd autogen outside the FTX region. But no matter what you do, you will indeed see the FTXG textures because they completely replaced the default ones!

 

I asked about this on the Orbx forum, because I was curious what exactly would go wrong 1. within an FTX region with hybrid enabled and 2. outside an FTX region with hybrid disabled, but it's still not totally clear to me.

 

Concerning 1, when hybrid is enabled, you will see small differences within an FTX region which are related to to autogen textures, slope textures and class-to-texture assignments. Outside of the regions things should be as they should be. But I didn't get an answer to the question 2. The only thing I do know is that when you have enabled a region there will be small errors or differences outside of it, so with FTXG.

 

No matter how you look at it, hybrid mode is a compromise... If you want to see an FTX region in all its glory you should enable that region only. And if you want to see FTXG in all its glory you should enable FTX default, with or without hybrid mode.

Any advice to OpenLC placement in the library? I have mine placed above my UTX entries at the moment. I have tried placing between UTX Landclass Urban and Veg but noticed no difference.

 

Just place the LC you want to use above the other. That you didn't see a difference when you placed OpenLC in between the UTX entries is because they simply don't overlap...! In your specific case you might even place OpenLC underneath UTX and you still won't see a difference. You will ONLY see a difference using various landclass addons when they actually overlap area's. So when you have two different Europe LC add ons it really matters which one you place above the other in the library but if you have LC for Asia and LC for Europe the order doesn't matter.