November 6, 200421 yr Why was the Concorde left out of FS since FS2002?FS2000 had the Concorde and a few features, but Microsoft left out those features and the Concorde in FS2002.Why couldn't they include it. Too much work to bring it into 2002?
November 6, 200421 yr Because one crashed, people died and it was taken out of service. Same reason the Twin Towers were removed. You can use one of the freeware versions.Allcott
November 6, 200421 yr Author My conspiration theory is that Boeing has always want the Concorde removed from flight simulator. And MS do have quite a strong bond with Boeing. 3 Boeings and 0 Airbusses speaks it
November 6, 200421 yr "We will see with FS 2006. Hopefully less boeings and more Airbuses and the Concorde"Ya gotta be kidding buddy, you miss the key point, Boeings are made in the US of A, and Airbus is not.As such you get the old Boeing is better than Airbus because (insert FBW related bring down)arguements from people who do not know any better.Dan.
November 6, 200421 yr The fact is that the commercial agreement between MS and BA (for use of livery/speedmarque etc) expired, after which BA were no longer interested in renewing the arrangement.I s'pose MS could've still included Concorde with a ficticious livery though..Cheers,Paulhttp://www.strontiumdog.plus.com/sbird.jpgwww.BAVirtual.co.uk[p]Officially licenced by British Airways plc for use of name and logo[/p]
November 6, 200421 yr The default F2000 Concorde wasn't brilliant, by any stretch of the imagination! The Project Mach 3 Concorde for FS2002 was released in Feb 2003, and they released an FS2004 version a little while back. It beats the MS version by a long way :(The Flightsim community is always there to help you:http://www.atomic-album.com/showPic.php/23664/kickass.gif Quote from MS Flight Team Lead: "We’ve made some guesses"
November 6, 200421 yr The Concorde is available here: http://www.fsfrance.com/Projets/Mach2/Main_eng.htmThe Flightsim community is always there to help:http://www.atomic-album.com/showPic.php/23664/kickass.gif Quote from MS Flight Team Lead: "We’ve made some guesses"
November 6, 200421 yr >Because one crashed, people died and it was taken out of service. Same reason the Twin Towers were removed. You can use one of the freeware versions.So no B737 or B747 ever crashed? ;)The real reason is that they decided it was too complex an aircraft to simulate. At least that is what I heard.
November 6, 200421 yr www.sstsim.com for a really good representation of Conc ;)Cheers,Paulhttp://www.strontiumdog.plus.com/sbird.jpgwww.BAVirtual.co.uk[p]Officially licenced by British Airways plc for use of name and logo[/p]
November 8, 200421 yr >My conspiration theory is that Boeing has always want the>Concorde removed from flight simulator. And MS do have quite a>strong bond with Boeing. 3 Boeings and 0 Airbusses speaks it
November 8, 200421 yr "The flight dynamics and realism on the default a/c are great"Hmmmm.....while the default craft are OK, I didnt think I have ever flown one for a great length of time, and I certainly would go so far as to say they are "great", give me the PMDG bird any day.I would be more than happy if MS decided to ditch default planes all together, and concentrate on the "world", and leave the planes to the guys like PMDG, and F1 etcDan.
November 9, 200421 yr One problem is Micorosft have the business ties to Boeing. You didn't think of that. I want to take advantage of this and pursue an improvement of the a/c. While you and I may pay $$ for a/c (are you the Ariane hater?) I still think it is good to have them.Anyway, not all are going to buy MSFS 2006 and want to have a flight simulator without any aircraft!!!!! They will be mad as ever if they couldn't buy something and use it without having to purchase or download extra stuff.All you are saying is that stuff everyone else I am happy mate.When MS looks at the market they will decide that packaging a/c is going to help sell it. Obviously you are going to buy 1 copy, but the market will decide this.As far as I am concerned if MS dumps their a/c then it is no longer a Flight sim.Same with their train sim. Dump their trains and it not a raiload sim, but a 'world sim with rail tracks'. What a useless piece of garbage you would be buying.The package is what sells it and when I buy a package that is what I expect.You should convert to X-Plane or make your own sim if you don't like the MS a/c.MS should add on their airbus A330 and A340-600 and 300 a/c with a fully functional VC.The Boeing a/c should be upgraded. All a/c should have more advanced manuals.More lessons etc etc.I am for improving whats there, not removing it!Are the PMDG VCs great? Tell me more....please.
November 9, 200421 yr Hmm.....where do I start?" (are you the Ariane hater?) ",what on earth has that got to do with anything, would I buy from Ariane? no,do I care about Ariane?, no."All you are saying is that stuff everyone else I am happy mate."Not at all,in my eyes the default planes are a waste of HD space, they are next to useless for me, and if MS made a version without them I would be a happy man."As far as I am concerned if MS dumps their a/c then it is no longer a Flight sim."OOOOkkkk."You should convert to X-Plane or make your own sim if you don't like the MS a/c."I tried X-plane,didnt like it,they are lots of things I dont like about X-plane,which is why I wont use it.I like FS2004,like it a lot,so why should I change just because I think the default planes are useless?"MS should add on their airbus A330 and A340-600 and 300 a/c with a fully functional VC.The Boeing a/c should be upgraded. All a/c should have more advanced manuals.More lessons etc etc.I am for improving whats there, not removing it!"Not a chance in the world,the development cycle of a complex addon is almost as long as FS itself,I can't see MS spending that amount of time on ONE plane when guys like PMDG do it so much better."Are the PMDG VCs great? Tell me more....please."Yep,they sure are,its the best airliner addon at the moment BAR NONE.Dan.
November 9, 200421 yr The concorde was taken out of flight sim due to the complex of the aircraft and that microsoft could do better things such as Ai traffic and atc. Whoever said that thing about the crash is wrong. Lots of 737-400 have crashed, and is still there Brent Lewis
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