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Rob Ainscough

PMDG 777 + LOD 9.5 + 4096 Textures + FB KSFO + REX 4096 is possible

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It was close on VAS, very close - about 250MB free, but flight from KSFO to KSAN was successful.

 

LOD 9.5
REX Weather/Textures 4096 Clouds
FSX Textures 4096
FlightBeam KSFO
AI Traffic 360
PMDG 777-200
2560 x 1600
AccuFeel
MSE CA 2.0
GoFlight Interface

2560 x 1600 4X/16X

 

FPS didn't really change for me, worse case about 30 fps.

 

Very well done Aircraft PMDG.  ... I hope I got the image size limit correct, can't remember if it was 1024 or 1280 (these are 1280)??  Apologies if I got it wrong.

 

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Well done PMDG and thank you.

 

Rob

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I still dont know how its possible you run at 9.5LOD when everyone else struggles at even 6.5. Not to mention your using 4096 textures. Its like everything that is suggested to avoid an OOM. Do you have some sort of secret backdoor VAS module that sidesteps the 32bit FSX 4GB? Thats gotta be what it is. Else your running a secret 64 bit fsx program thats ultra confidential.  :lol:

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Else your running a secret 64 bit fsx program thats ultra confidential.

 

LOL, it was close, if I had a few more clouds it probably would have pushed me over the top.  But this is CA in summer, what are clouds? ;)

 

I'll probably dial the LOD back some for a longer flights and more scenery libraries and airports enabled.  But remember, this is MSE with no AutoGen, only some stuff I've added to my local airports via IS3.

 

EDIT: The PMDG operations center is a wonderful tool.  Great job!

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Hi Rob,

 

You're using your own domain to host the images, so there really is no limit. (20 at a time)(warn viewers for large images)

 

Nice shots.  This plane is amazing me, and I really haven't even gotten started.

 

Dennis

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Nice shots. This plane is amazing me, and I really haven't even gotten started.

 

Thanks Dennis, I'm just scratching the surface too ... amazing product!


I figured the United livery is more appropriate for my area, given their headquarters.  And adjusted the weather to real world :)

 

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Ya can do this ONLY because you arent loading any Autogen.

 

+1

 

Plus also what were the Filter settings, AA, Alpha AA, Gama etc? Scenery shadows, on/off etc?

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Great shots..That view of San Francisco and bay are really special!

 

HLJAMES

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Plus also what were the Filter settings, AA, Alpha AA, Gama etc? Scenery shadows, on/off etc?

 

...and how many AI planes were flying around?

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Ya can do this ONLY because you arent loading any Autogen

 

Yes, and DX10 helps too, and scenery library enable for only the area I'm flying in.  I've never been a fan of AutoGen that's why I have so much Photo Scenery (2.5TB worth and growing).  I use IS3 to produce AutoGen objects around points of interest and airports.  I use various airports from FSDT, Flightbeam, LatinVFR, UK2000, etc.

 

 

 


In the pics he had posted there were couple of jets parked

 

I counted 13 in my pictures, but Traffic 360 is set to 100% GA/Business parking density, with 10% AI density, there were 2 aircraft on taxi at the time.  Traffic schedules I have selected are Summer 2012 and Winter 2013.

 

 

 


Plus also what were the Filter settings, AA, Alpha AA, Gama etc? Scenery shadows, on/off etc?

 

[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680.0]
MipBias=10
Mode=2560x1600x32
Anisotropic=1
AntiAlias=1

 

[Display]
TextureMaxLoad=30
InfoBrakesEnable=False
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=False
InfoPauseEnable=False
InfoSlewEnable=False
InfoStallEnable=False
InfoOverspeedEnable=False
BLOOM_EFFECTS=0
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=80
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0
WideViewAspect=False

 

[Main]
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.99
DisablePreload=1

 

[Weather]
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=7
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8
THERMAL_VISUALS=0

 

[sCENERY]
ObjectsToBatchPerFrame=50
MAX_ASYNC_BATCHING_JOBS=4
SmallPartRejectRadius=0
LENSFLARE=1
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5

[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=10
GADensity=10
FreewayDensity=10
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=10
LeisureBoatsDensity=5
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=3

[TERRAIN]
SWAP_WAIT_TIMEOUT=2
IMAGE_PIXELS_FOR_AUTOGEN_POLYGONS=2048
BATCH_AUTOGEN2=1
LOD_RADIUS=9.500000
MESH_COMPLEXITY=100
MESH_RESOLUTION=25
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=29
AUTOGEN_DENSITY=5
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
WATER_EFFECTS=4

 

[GRAPHICS]
MultiSampleQuality=4
MultiSamplesPerPixel=16
NIGHT_THRESHOLD=4096
DAY_THRESHOLD=32768
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693500672
STALE_BUFFER_THRESHOLD=2147483647
HIGHMEMFIX=1
ForceWindowedVSync=0
ForceFullScreenVSync=1
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693500672
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=4096
NUM_LIGHTS=8
AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
AC_SELF_SHADOW=1
EFFECTS_QUALITY=2
GROUND_SHADOWS=0
TEXTURE_QUALITY=3
IMAGE_QUALITY=0
See_Self=1
Text_Scroll=1
D3D10=1

 

With NVidia Inspector setttings here:

 

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I'll post a video this weekend with Fraps frame rate counter displayed.

 

But like I said, if weather got worse it probably would push me over the top for VAS and/or if I used more views.  But as far as FPS, not a problem, VAS is the real worry and I've only done short 1 hour (ish) flights so far.  But isn't this the story of FSX anyway, one has to work the compromises to fit one's enjoyment.

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They are beautiful pics.

 

If you look at the AA settings its "treat overide as Application controlled" and AA is checked within FSX - DX10, thenim pretty sure its about 2x AA and not much better.

 

Performance wise Im sure this wasn't bad, absence of AG and the filter settings very low. Visualy I could never go back to that. 

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DX10, thenim pretty sure its about 2x AA and not much better.

 

These are 4XAA, I can assure you.  I should have included these NVidia Control Panel settings, because they relate to how NVidia Inspector works.

 

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At 2560 x 1600, my eyes don't see much of a difference going beyond 4XAA in other games/applications (with the exception of C4D R14, but I usually only render C4D output to 1920 x 1080).  Moving forward to 4K monitor resolution (3840 x 2160), I doubt AA will be needed at all ... keep in mind AA is actually a filter (filters are to correct problems at a cost).  For better image quality I prefer higher resolution and less AA (less filtering), but to each his or her own.

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These are 4XAA, I can assure you. I should have included these NVidia Control Panel settings, because they relate to how NVidia Inspector works.

 

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At 2560 x 1600, my eyes don't see much of a difference going beyond 4XAA in other games/applications (with the exception of C4D R14, but I usually only render C4D output to 1920 x 1080). Moving forward to 4K monitor resolution (3840 x 2160), I doubt AA will be needed at all ... keep in mind AA is actually a filter (filters are to correct problems at a cost). For better image quality I prefer higher resolution and less AA (less filtering), but to each his or her own.

I'm with you, nice PPI helps though at that res it would be better on a 27" as its not that far from the 2408's 1920x1200 .027 vs.025 vs. the 27" .023

 

Nott trying to be a wet blanket or doubt you but I have never seen anyone override FSX hardcoded DX10 2xAA, Inspector, Rivatuner or what not, never seen it really done and that includes " Steve's FSX Analysis", though I would love be wrong.

If you are using inspector, then you should not be going back into the NVCP or vice versa, as one overrides the other, except in the case of FSX internal hardcoded DX10 AA which neither is effective (unless something has changed recently in FSX - new "tweak" perhaps?).

 

Glad those settings work for you, which is great and that is what is truly important. I guess I just dont really think they compare with what anyone would consider "normal" HQ display settings for FSX as AG would be shimmering all over the place etc (maybe why you dont use AG?).

 

Considering all that you are running, no matter what it is still a feat much to be appreciated and those are great shots.

 

Cheers!

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If you have already entered .... THANKS ... only one entry per person.

 

Hey Dennis, I was hoping for Steve's DX10 app to be released soon so I could get to work on putting together a great "one shot" screen shot of the 777 ... but it looks like Steve's app might be delayed and not done in time for Sept 13th cut off.

 

I might still be able to do a good one without, for what I had planned I needed Steve's DX10 app to correct a few small issues.  But I got plenty of ideas/locations that I want to test out :)

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AG would be shimmering all over the place etc (maybe why you dont use AG?).

 

I use AG, see my FSX.CFG listing = 5. It's just that I'm using MSE CA 2.0 in those screen shots so no AG. I have used AutoGen.BGL with IS3 for some local airports (KCCR for example) to create a new .BGL that I use with MSE 2.0. Not shimmering at all.

 

I highly recommend folks test out this registry setting on a Win7 64bit (and maybe Win8 64bit) for VAS improvement:

 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems\SharedSection=1024,20480,2048

 

or

 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems\SharedSection=1024,20480,3072

 

I believe the limit for any of these heap entries is 49152. The last value is non-interactive desktop heap and is mapped into the address space of every process (32bit or 64bit). But do this at your own risk, on some systems it can prevent the OS loading (meaning you have to boot to a safe mode disk and edit registry to get back up and running). You've been warned.

 

Don't worry, I know how to OOM FSX just like anyone else, but these settings might help with some improved headroom.

 

Again, these entries are for 64bit OS not 32bit OS.

 

EDIT: I believe it was Phil Taylor that recommended 1024,20480,1024.

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Again, you can't overide DX10 with Inspector nor with the NVCPL so you are using FSX hardcoded 2xAA.

 

The last time I was stuck with that poor of filter IQ was back in FS98.

 

A modern powerful $1000 Titan Video card, for at 2xAA is pointless.

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