September 13, 201312 yr Hi all, With the high qualities of the PMDG 737NGX and the recent release of 777, it's gotten me wondering how are their lines of turboprop products? I have and enjoy the MJC Q400, I would say it is at similar if not the same level of complexity/quality as the higher-end PMDG products. So that begs the question, how does the most recent turboprop JS41 measure up to the other big games from PMDG and other companies? I see in the PMDG Ops Centre, there is an entry for the NGX, the 777 and the JS41, so that's why I ask: Is the JS41 aimed at the same pool of customers as the NGX and T7; in turn indicating the level of realism in their system modeling? You may have realised I mainly focused on the systems, which was on purpose; as the VC quality and system simulation (and FPS of course) are my main criterion to determine a purchase. So I'm considering getting the JS41, and I would like to hear some feedback before I commit. Notice how don't ask this question in the PMDG forum, as I would like get comments from simmers across the board (not only PMDG customers). Thanks in advance. Brendan Chen Learning to use and getting use to FSX!
September 13, 201312 yr Don't waste your money.. The aircraft isn't nearly as good as the NGX.. -Damien Damien Furtman Hovering Hellion
September 13, 201312 yr I see in the PMDG Ops Centre, there is an entry for the NGX, the 777 and the JS41, so that's why I ask: Is the JS41 aimed at the same pool of customers as the NGX and T7; in turn indicating the level of realism in their system modeling? I don't have the M Q400 to compare it against but it's very decent in many ways. I am very disheartened they didn't take the time to make 2D popups on the main gauges as I use 50% zoom in the VC so text is too small on a large display. It's possible to zoom in on what would in other simulations bring up a main 2D panel, but it's really just another VC repositioned for IFR training I think. One could preset that view to be zoomed back up to 100% so you could read the small text involved. I doubt it would have taken a huge amount more programming. Other than that I like it. Systems modeling seems decent. I, truthfully, don't get in that deep so it's all I would ever need to have implemented. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 13, 201312 yr Don't waste your money.. The aircraft isn't nearly as good as the NGX.. -Damien why is that? ZORAN
September 13, 201312 yr Its a great airplane. The fps are very good and the system depth is PMDG quality. The VC is very good also, even though it's an older PMDG model it can still hold it's own. I've flown the Brasilia irl and even though it's a totally different bird (it is the competition so its similar) it always makes me nostalgic when I fly it. The sound is good, starting the engines is realistic and yes, yes, yes you can burn up the engines so you have to be very careful but you can also turn that feature off. It's a slippery bird so you have to handle her with care and plan your approach accordingly but it's very rewarding. It's the perfect short hop aircraft. I fly it all up and down the Dominican Republic and no complaints here. I highly recommend fs2crew to assist you flyin this bird. I recommend it 110% You cannot compare the J41 with anything on the FSX market. It's literally in a class of its own. Reik Namreg
September 13, 201312 yr The PMDG J41 is a high quality simulation of a crappy airplane. The simulation doesn't disappoint...the airplane does. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
September 13, 201312 yr Author The PMDG J41 is a high quality simulation of a crappy airplane. The simulation doesn't disappoint...the airplane does. Regards LOL, I actually laughed! I don't know the simulation, or the aircraft so I can't comment, but interesting way of putting it Brendan Chen Learning to use and getting use to FSX!
September 13, 201312 yr Don't waste your money.. The aircraft isn't nearly as good as the NGX.. -Damien in what way? it's a very good simulation of a J41. have it, love it. with fs2crew it's even better. Glenn Ryzen 3700X, X570 Pro Wifi, 32GB 3600mhz RAM, Nvidia Titan Xp "Galactic Empire", RM750x PSU, H700 case, 2x NVMe M2 SSD, 1x SATA SSD
September 13, 201312 yr i like it, i think it's one of the better turboprops for fsx...definitely one of my favorites, i actually started flying vc-only (with ezdok) because of this plane.. the systems modeling is at the same level of detail as the other PMDG stuff, although of course the actual systems aren't as complex..., i like that the engines have a pretty unusual setup being fixed gear props with start-locks etc, they definitely require your attention to use correctly. i'd say it's not quite as polished as the Q400 but it's pretty close.
September 13, 201312 yr I seem to remember PMDG described it as something of a technology demonstrator for the 737NGX at the time using an aircraft Robert Randazzo had flown personally during his career. Part test run and part walk down Memory Lane then. Also part way between PMDG's "lite" models like the Beech 1900D and the full blown MD-11, 747, 737 and 777 in terms of user features but probably close to them in terms of the fidelity of the modelling. For example, it features modelling of icing to the extent that it can be hard to fly which is probably true to life in that type of aircraft. What did let it down a bit is that a service pack was promised which was never delivered..... I had a lot of fun out of it before the NGX took over so if you want a turbo-prop you could do worse, Having said that, I don't have the Majestic Q400 but it's very highly rated by others and there are a lot more of those out in the real world if that matters to you.
September 13, 201312 yr It's well done and very different... here is a link to the manuals: https://s3.amazonaws.com/PMDG_Downloads/file_library/documentation/PMDG_J41_PDF_DOCS.zip DJ
September 13, 201312 yr The PMDG J41 is a high quality simulation of a crappy airplane. The simulation doesn't disappoint...the airplane does.Regards Couldn't agree more. They should've gone with PT6's or P118's but they had to be different... Reik Namreg
September 14, 201312 yr Author Couldn't agree more. They should've gone with PT6's or P118's but they had to be different... So I was just curious and looked up who were the operators for the JS41, to my surprise, very very limited airlines operated it! Hardly any in US, average amount in EU, and hardly any in AU (as to be expected anyway)... Brendan Chen Learning to use and getting use to FSX!
September 14, 201312 yr I think they chose it because its a bit of a beast, slippery for sure and a tendancy to blow up with an auto pilot that needs a bit of attention. Having said that it was for me the most realistic plane before the 777 and the NGX ranks third. IMO. its a must have turbo prop if you dont have one or you dont own the q400 already ZORAN
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