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New "revolutionary" version of Active Sky coming

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Have any of the beta testers tired ASN with ConcordeX. 

 

I can confirm Concorde-X flies great with ASN. No more wind/temperature shifts. 

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FSUIPC weather features are not required at all and are actually specifically stopped from interfering with ASN at a low level in the code as far as I understand it.

 

The low level hooks into the Weather system which FSUIPC installs, for smoothing specifically, are taken over by ASN before FSUIPC4 gets them, so, yes, in that sense it takes over that area of FSUIPC's facilities. In version 4.923 and before this would be reported as an error in the FSUIPC log file, but I'm suppressing this report in 4.924 onwards when FSUIPC detects ASN.

 

FSUIPC 4.924 will hopefully be released on Monday, but I've a couple more things to do on it yet.

 

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I can confirm Concorde-X flies great with ASN. No more wind/temperature shifts. 

 

Thanks Andrew, great to hear.

Mark   CYYZ      

 

I laughed when I read the marketing hype about this new version

 

"no more wind shifts" "large temp changes" etc. and the like. I have AS2012, use DWC and file a flight plan, and have never had one of these problems ever before. So what am I really paying for to go from AS2012 to ASN?

I laughed when I read the marketing hype about this new version

 

"no more wind shifts" "large temp changes" etc. and the like. I have AS2012, use DWC and file a flight plan, and have never had one of these problems ever before. So what am I really paying for to go from AS2012 to ASN?

Certainly not the norm and I would say you are the minority. Wind shifts while surpressed by many weather engines are still a big problem.

Nevertheless , read the user guide on post #173. Explains all the changes and how things are done or reread this thread. 

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I laughed when I read the marketing hype about this new version

 

"no more wind shifts" "large temp changes" etc. and the like. I have AS2012, use DWC and file a flight plan, and have never had one of these problems ever before. So what am I really paying for to go from AS2012 to ASN?

DWC is global weather. Same weather everywhere, all stations, all altitudes. So, if you're flying at FL370 and the winds are blowing at 50kts and it's -45C, then it's blowing 50 everywhere and it's 45 below at every station, at every altitude. For those who don't fly online, it really messes with AI and wind direction at airports.

 

With ASN, global weather is past. The station weather at every station is what is reported in the METAR, not just what is at your plane's current position. So, you will see different cloud decks, variations in the weather in a region. AI aircraft will behave properly in the weather layer they are flying in. Winds react predictably. Winds are also interpolated between reported levels. So if the winds are at 25kts at FL240 and 75kts at FL300, then the winds will be approx 50kts at FL270, with direction averaging the same way (with a bit of play due to how ASN interpolates. This results in absolutely smooth transitions between levels, with no delay, and smooth transitions from station to station.

 

As I've said before, comparing ASN with AS2012 is like comparing apples to oranges. They are not the same, nor do they work the same. But, it's entirely up to you. You have a 7 day trail to give it a shot. If you feel you don't need ASN, then enjoy what you have. Believe it or not, others can make their own decisions...hence the trial version. It up to everyone on their own how they want to enjoy their hobby.

 

 

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Having just read though the manual. I have to say it sounds perfect. As simple to use as can be, no wondering if you have it set up right.

 

SOLD.

 

Am I right in thinking as a AS2012 owner I get a discount?

 

What is the price?

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And let's not forget about the glider pilot's!  We also have a great experience flying ridges with ASN!

 

I am finally able to use a single weather injector capable of giving me weather to fly from a T7, to the Discus X :-)

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DWC is global weather. Same weather everywhere, all stations, all altitudes. So, if you're flying at FL370 and the winds are blowing at 50kts and it's -45C, then it's blowing 50 everywhere and it's 45 below at every station, at every altitude. For those who don't fly online, it really messes with AI and wind direction at airports.

 

With ASN, global weather is past. The station weather at every station is what is reported in the METAR, not just what is at your plane's current position. So, you will see different cloud decks, variations in the weather in a region. AI aircraft will behave properly in the weather layer they are flying in. Winds react predictably. Winds are also interpolated between reported levels. So if the winds are at 25kts at FL240 and 75kts at FL300, then the winds will be approx 50kts at FL270, with direction averaging the same way (with a bit of play due to how ASN interpolates. This results in absolutely smooth transitions between levels, with no delay, and smooth transitions from station to station.

 

As I've said before, comparing ASN with AS2012 is like comparing apples to oranges. They are not the same, nor do they work the same. But, it's entirely up to you. You have a 7 day trail to give it a shot. If you feel you don't need ASN, then enjoy what you have. Believe it or not, others can make their own decisions...hence the trial version. It up to everyone on their own how they want to enjoy their hobby.

 

 

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Thank you, this makes so much sense. I will be ready to purchase it then, for sure! So I don't have to load a flight plan any more, just start it up and go fly, the weather will be what it is everywhere now?

You don't have to load a flight plan but its still advisable if you are flying in a commercial jet at altitude as ASN can give you some very useful information about the weather along your route as well as things like average wind components and advisories of bad weather along your route in the audio briefings.

Cheers, Andy.

So I don't have to load a flight plan any more, just start it up and go fly, the weather will be what it is everywhere now?

 

Nope!  No need to load a flight plan.  But, the flight plan gives you lots of information and allows you to use the inflight weather advisory frequencies (122.00 and 122.05) that give you enroute and destination weather.

 

Gah!!  :)  Andy, you beat me to it!!  :)  lol

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Devin
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One of the favorite past times for sim users is to look for bad weather, especially in this season, and go fly in it, "an achievement ritual" when you cant fly in the real world under those conditions. If you guys get any more real in these weather add-ons, we won't be able to fly in the sim either  :Just Kidding:. I am very interested in seeing how the Wake turbulence works. Atleast now, pilots will pay attn to us controllers on VATSIM when we give a WT warning. :LMAO:

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I am very interested in seeing how the Wake turbulence works. Atleast now, pilots will pay attn to us controllers on VATSIM when we give a WT warning.

I suggest you bring a clean pair of shorts to the sim room!  You WILL get bounced around and possibly worse. Flying a 172 into a Tcell would not be advised - but it the sim you can at least walk away from the result.  :)

 

Really - it is exceptional.

 

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