September 27, 201312 yr Or you can make your own. Took about an hour to make a 1st draft of Nauru. Good fun if you have plenty of time on your hands. I will give Switzerland a crack when I get much better at it ZORAN
September 27, 201312 yr This doesn't mean the OrbX way has advantages too - full autogen and seasons being the most notable. They also use vectorized landclass in many areas to get the shape of towns correct, especially along rivers or major roads. It's not just a landclass product. However, even though the two products use two totally different techniques, my point was that they would be in direct competition in the sense that both are high-quality regional scenery products. Also think of the higher VAS usage that comes with photoscenery: If you are a 'heavy user' of PS you want to make sure the SceneryConfigEditor is installed and that you 'bundle' your PS into areas (US, Europe, ...). Only activate the area for your next flight in SCE and make sure the rest of your (photo)scenery is deactivated. What happened to AVSIM
September 27, 201312 yr Performance of photoscenery is no worse than default, usually better. Is the mostly because of the lack of autogen or no? Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 27, 201312 yr Is the mostly because of the lack of autogen or no? Autogen and, maybe, custom 3D objects. What happened to AVSIM
September 27, 201312 yr Also think of the higher VAS usage that comes with photoscenery: If you are a 'heavy user' of PS you want to make sure the SceneryConfigEditor is installed and that you 'bundle' your PS into areas (US, Europe, ...). Only activate the area for your next flight in SCE and make sure the rest of your (photo)scenery is deactivated. VAS usage is an issue with OrbX too if you, especially in areas that have a lot of custom airports (ie. the Seattle area). MSE or OrbX really comes down to personal preference. If they make a MSE Norway product, some people will choose that and others will choose OrbX. If the Megascenery team focuses on another area, maybe more people will buy both that and OrbX Norway...increasing sales for both companies. -
September 27, 201312 yr I agree. The FTX regions aren't VAS-heavy, but big, detailled addon airports, all options activated are - no matter whether it's ORBX, UK2000 extreme or anything else. Actually I don't have a strong preference; I'd depart a FTX region, fly over default scenery, and land in photoscenery ... and enjoy them all! What happened to AVSIM
September 27, 201312 yr Will have to wait and see on the first point, although there will likely be a few European countries coming sooner rather than later. The choices are largely dependant on available imagery. Re night lighting for the USA - this is being worked on. More news on this coming soon. Of course, I see the main difference being Orbx is more "3D" overall... Good for low and slow type stuff, although for pure VFR flying (in the sense of actually navigating using proper VFR methods, photoreal will make that job easier and more accurate). Will MSE offer selective areas of coverage for the 2.0 for those of us who don't want complete state or country coverage like was offered in your earlier version. Bill McIntyre Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64
September 27, 201312 yr And/or, will your countries be broken down into regions? So, maybe for a country as small as Switzerland, and east and west or something similar? That way, we can keep down the VAS usage say if we are departing Geneva and heading west. We don't need to have the other half of the country enabled since we won't come anywhere close to it. This would be really important for the bigger countries. Let's say you do end up doing Norway(hoping!!!), to enable that entire country for flights departing Oslo and heading anywhere south or west don't need the northern 3/4 of the country enabled. Regards, Kevin LaMal "Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings" - Shapiro2024
September 27, 201312 yr I'm really interrested in the quality of the upcoming european Photo scenery providing by MSE, not only the constistent of resolution, up especially about the constistent of colour (correction). A lot of (freeware) sources use fragmentent data collection, what will result in very obvious changes in color/season and will ruin the flight experience. Does MSE use some kind of color correction to smooth that kind of changes?
September 27, 201312 yr Open VFR Autogens could go well with MS V2 European countries http://openvfr.freyt.de/magento/index.php/news/openVFR_Autogen/ Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
September 27, 201312 yr Open VFR Autogens could go well with MS V2 European countries http://openvfr.freyt.de/magento/index.php/news/openVFR_Autogen/ They can, yes. However, don't expect perfection. Their products are based on OSM data. So, they are only as good as that data was at the time they build their autogens. I have their Norway product and use it with photoreal I've made for that country. It is pretty good but there are problems with trees in lakes in a lot of places. Whoever has done the OSM for that country, at least especially around ENGM, has not taken the time to define the many lakes that are within the forest areas in this area. So, most of the lakes have trees in them because the OSM data just shows the area as a big forest. So when OpenVFR compile their scenery, they don't see any difference and place trees everywhere inside any area tagged as a forest. It's definitely a step in the right direction, but no where near perfect. Unless Switzerland's OSM data is much better, I'd expect to see the same there as well. Regards, Kevin LaMal "Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings" - Shapiro2024
September 28, 201312 yr Commercial Member Will MSE offer selective areas of coverage for the 2.0 for those of us who don't want complete state or country coverage like was offered in your earlier version. Not at this stage. We only offer full states (USA) or full countries. And/or, will your countries be broken down into regions? So, maybe for a country as small as Switzerland, and east and west or something similar? That way, we can keep down the VAS usage say if we are departing Geneva and heading west. We don't need to have the other half of the country enabled since we won't come anywhere close to it. This would be really important for the bigger countries. Let's say you do end up doing Norway(hoping!!!), to enable that entire country for flights departing Oslo and heading anywhere south or west don't need the northern 3/4 of the country enabled. Larger states or countries will be broken into smaller parts yes. But there are few countries in Europe that are large enough to meet this requirement. Norway perhaps is one yes In the USA, we split Texas and California into 3 smaller regions for this reason. I'm really interrested in the quality of the upcoming european Photo scenery providing by MSE, not only the constistent of resolution, up especially about the constistent of colour (correction). A lot of (freeware) sources use fragmentent data collection, what will result in very obvious changes in color/season and will ruin the flight experience. Does MSE use some kind of color correction to smooth that kind of changes? At the moment, no... There are valid reasons why this is the case. There is a full explanation of why over at the MSE forums I wont repeat here (I do not wish to upset forum admins or break forum rules etc). Feel free to Google search it. Open VFR Autogens could go well with MS V2 European countries http://openvfr.freyt.de/magento/index.php/news/openVFR_Autogen/ Yes indeed. We are investigating how well OpenVFR and MSE might work together! DeanManager - PC Aviator AustraliaRetailing Sim DVD Software, Downloads, Hardware and Accessories
October 1, 201312 yr it's a shame I just finished the entire country Switzerland after 4 months of work colorimetry.I did that until a new version of Swiss PRO X i just hope MSE i do water mask on lake and river I'll put the links to a short video I made :rolleyes:Regards Olivier Link : http://youtu.be/S2rH4A-Hhr0
October 1, 201312 yr Commercial Member Yes now released! And happy to report it is offered at $29.95 (not the original $39.95 price previously quoted). PC Aviator USA - http://www.pcaviator.com/store/product.php?productid=19932 PC Aviator AUS - http://www.pcaviator.com.au/store/product.php?productid=19932 DeanManager - PC Aviator AustraliaRetailing Sim DVD Software, Downloads, Hardware and Accessories
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