October 14, 201312 yr Aerosoft is (are?) making good inroads with aircraft and scenery for both sims with the one purchase. It's a good business standpoint and makes excellent sense. I can see myself using P3D v2 for Airbus Extended and Twotter, and the addon scenery too. Jude BradleyBeech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020 🙂 System specs: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM 1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12, 1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020
October 14, 201312 yr The only thing I don't like about Prepar3D is... ...that ill have to buy another SSD for it to rest its bits on. They are quite inexpensive now and it will make managing the two sims so much easier. It may be that I'll never need one of them but it would hurt too much to simply delete the old and weary one. Besides, during the interim period I'm sure that it will be useful. There will be things that the new kid on the block might not have support for, so, until the developers catch up, I can have the best of both worlds.
October 14, 201312 yr You may be right. But many people have managed this quandry for years (or they certainly did in the not too distant past), with FSX and FS9. Although I haven't used FS9 for three years now, for a period of about 2-3 years I used and enjoyed both platforms in tandem; utilizing both for what they were best at. As good as P3D 2.0 may be, I can't see it instantly making FSX obsolete or irrelevent. Of course FSX won't be irrelevant because there is so much good content available for it, and people have so much money invested in it. On the issue of Obsolesense however, I would argue that in many ways, it has been obsolete for years now, regardless of the existence of P3Dv2 or not. I didn't quite understand that Dillon thread a couple of months ago about the T7 release being 'bittersweet' but now I am starting to see what he was talking about. In some situtations FSX feels like having a hot sportscar, but only dirt roads to drive it on, when what is really desired is the autobahn. I'm hoping that the situation with P3Dv2 is not one of having the autobahn, but only a Gremlin to drive on it. Yes, I know there are a couple of good planes that are fine for it, but for some of the jet-tube flyers, that's what it might be, at least at first, until a heavy hitter of a jet developer embraces it. For all I know, a year or two from now, maybe I'll be the X-planiest X-planer, even though I haven't at present given that sim a moment of consideration, or I'll have become a full time DCS person. I do really hope though, that I'm not using FSX at all, because I'm quite tired of using a 2006 sim that can still bring a 2013 machine to it's knees due to it's inefficiencies. Maybe it's the 7 year itch.
October 14, 201312 yr I would say that everyone is very excited about this. P3D has been around for a while and to all intent and purpose it is virtually identical to FSX warts and all. We are all anticipating the V2 is going to change all of that and it has been along time coming for all of us. Expectations are high and I do believe that those expectation in the main will be meet. It will not be perfect and there will be room for improvement. The point is that it is foundational because at its core there is a new modern graphics engine. Flight Sim is about to chance in a big way. V2 will be followed by V2.1 and so on and so forth. In a year from now the crying will be all but over and we will all fly happily ever after. There will be harmony in the forum....... And Pigs will Fly! :LMAO: Order has been restored
October 14, 201312 yr Moderator ...then the outcome when reality bit the various pieces of everyone's anatomy who had made those predictions, I agree. But Tom, maybe this time the horse really will have learned to sing! :lol: Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
October 14, 201312 yr EZDOK doesn't like to work with both programs installed, considering the selection of aircraft in both sims is completely different. I hope they will implement a better view system as the chances of that program ever getting updated to work with 2.0 looks slim at best. Next to REX and FTX Global I would say these are the most used addons of all on my setup. Hopefully they all work or will receive an update else I may just stick with FSX / DX10. Still this will not keep me from using P3D 2.0. I'll move my carenados, aerosofts and hopefully majestic over to that platform when they release it. The biggest hope I have is the endless tweaking that is required to make FSX look and perform well will fall by the wayside. That I won't miss. Steve McNitt
October 14, 201312 yr The planet is not as nice as it use to be and the risks of being human are getting worse. I was around in the 1930's & 40's. I can assure you that despite its problems, Planet Earth is a much better place today. And the risks of being human are actually vastly better! If you should travel to Europe someday, take the less traveled roads in France, Belgium and Holland and pause awhile at the cemeteries to understand why. january
October 15, 201312 yr ^Interesting that you say that, because my grand father who live through WWII in the south of France, would have said the same thing. All a matter of perspectives. I'm not sure who started the trend, saying that P3D will eliminate the need for tweaking, but, I think this is setting the bar way to high. This is still old MS code after all. Anyone with a decent computer can run default dx9 FSX stutter free, with minimal tweaks. But we tweak endlessly because the addons we install introduce more than what FSX can really handle. How will P3D handle this? Intel i7 10700K | Asus Maximus XII Hero | Asus TUF RTX 3090 | 32GB HyperX Fury 3200 DDR4 | 1TB Samsung M.2 (W11) | 2TB Samsung M.2 (MSFS2020) | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280mm AIO | 43" Samsung Q90B | 27" Asus Monitor
October 15, 201312 yr ^Interesting that you say that, because my grand father who live through WWII in the south of France, would have said the same thing. All a matter of perspectives. I'm not sure who started the trend, saying that P3D will eliminate the need for tweaking, but, I think this is setting the bar way to high. This is still old MS code after all. Anyone with a decent computer can run default dx9 FSX stutter free, with minimal tweaks. But we tweak endlessly because the addons we install introduce more than what FSX can really handle. How will P3D handle this? The fundamentals of V2 include removing old legacy code and modernising the platform
October 15, 201312 yr Which doesn't mean there won't be any tweaks necessary to optimize performance in different use-cases. The default settings will just be more appropriate, in general.
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