IRS No Align - What?

[Nathan3219 113]

Right now it's 10:40, my scheduled departure time. Unfortunately, I am still parked at the gate in my KLM MD-11 at Atlanta.

 

Reason being, is I am having problems with my IRS aligning. I set the three IRS's to align (I'm using fast align for 15 seconds) and the 15 seconds later I get a message on my EICAS display saying IRU 1 Not Align, IRU 2 Not Align, IRU 3 Not Align. When I try to press INITIALIZE IRS* in the FMS, a message in the scratchpad pops up saying "NOT ALLOWED". Also, I tried manually entering the LAT/LONG in both the INIT page and the POS REF page. Both times I tried a message also popped up saying NOT ALLOWED.

 

I've never seen this before, and I've spent countless hours all of the PMDG products, including the MD-11.

 

Does anyone know what can be causing this?

 

My regards,

Nathan3219

[scandinavian13 5,192]

 

 

I've never seen this before, and I've spent countless hours all of the PMDG products, including the MD-11.

 

That normally points to user error...

 

Are the IRS knobs in the correct position?

[Nathan3219 113]

That normally points to user error...

 

Are the IRS knobs in the correct position?

 

Yes, IRS 1, IRS AUX, and IRS 2 were all set to NAV.

[brivadois 5]

I'm newbie and I begin flying the MD-11. Yesterday, I was learning the Advanced Tutorial Flight and I got exactly the same problem as you (I was using fast align for 15 seconds too).

When I got the IRS message on the EICAS I read more deeply the page 10 :

 

"IRS / CARGO FIRE Test
If you haven’t already done so you should set the time the IRS needs to align to “Real Time” within the PMDG options
menu for this flight (default option after installation). This is to prevent any alignment errors by not feeding the IRS
position fast enough while reading through the instructions that follow."

 

Doing that, I had no more problems with IRS and got no message. It is not the best solution if you are in hurry, but I hope it helps.

[Nathan3219 113]

Thanks François. I set my MD-11 to real time alignment and it worked fine this time around.

[brivadois 5]

Nathan,

 

Happy it helps.

As you fly the MD-11 for a long time, maybe you can help me for my display issue: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/425433-display-issues:

 

Good flights.

[Sponge 74]

Have you clicked initialize irs in the fmc?

[eNVee 14]

Rob and others...

 

As it was pointed out - unfortunately MD11 produces this error time after time if you use short align time. This is no user error Kyle. It just happens. It has nothing to do with clicking INITIALIZE IRS either. 

 

What I am not sure of... that you will completely eliminate the problem with the full time align setting. It still may happen. However, I can not confirm.

[scandinavian13 5,192]

 

 

Rob and others...

As it was pointed out - unfortunately MD11 produces this error time after time if you use short align time. This is no user error Kyle. It just happens. It has nothing to do with clicking INITIALIZE IRS either.

 

First, note I said "normally indicates user error."  That's a simple fact of troubleshooting.  It worked yesterday.  It didn't work today.  The first step is to check for user errors because machines and code generally don't act up just because they woke up on the wrong side of the bed (excepting Windows, of course, and you just reboot that  ).

 

As far as your addressing your post to "Rob and others," I'm guessing you want to get the attention of PMDG staff?  If so, you should submit a ticket to support.precisionmanuals.com, since you're guaranteed to have it looked at there.  Here, that isn't the case.

[eNVee 14]

First, note I said "normally indicates user error."  That's a simple fact of troubleshooting.  It worked yesterday.  It didn't work today.  The first step is to check for user errors because machines and code generally don't act up just because they woke up on the wrong side of the bed (excepting Windows, of course, and you just reboot that  ).

 

As far as your addressing your post to "Rob and others," I'm guessing you want to get the attention of PMDG staff?  If so, you should submit a ticket to support.precisionmanuals.com, since you're guaranteed to have it looked at there.  Here, that isn't the case.

 

Yes, when I faced this problem for the first time, I thought the same, but later on found out that this has nothing to do with flows or procedures you are performing. Even tried things like bringing plane back to cold&dark (simply switching all of, not by loading panel state) and then trying to start all over. Never helped. Once it refuses to align - it's not gonna work. Only solution - restart flight.

 

I was reffering to Rob aka Sponge, not RSR. 

[scandinavian13 5,192]

 

 

Only solution - restart flight.

 

Luckily the align is at the beginning of the flight, else I'd probably throw something...haha.

[eNVee 14]

Luckily the align is at the beginning of the flight, else I'd probably throw something...haha.

Yes, indeed.  

[3-2-1-Now 126]

Just power off all 3 IRS at the same time, then power them on again, and jump to the FMS.

 

Best regards,

Robin.