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Good Lord...

 

I'm sitting on 07 w/ engines running in the RA Duke, REX weather, and notice a huge jump in frames just by having a mouse-click drop down menu displaying.  The amazing thing is you can fly w/ this open and retain the huge frame rate increase.  The same happened when I took this to KSEA area, only lower numbers:  about 28-29 on 34R then up to 52 or so w/ a drop down menu displaying.  

 

I have all the DX-11 features maxed except shadows one notch back from Ultimate, and I do have vegetation and all other shadows on.  Perhaps it's a red herring and the fraps counter miscounted?  Interestingly, the mouse pointer performance penalty which is very prominent in FSX is almost completely absent in V2, and yet this glaring increase in frame rate bespeaks a weird issue.  If the sim can run as those frame rates while flying, and it sure does, this implies there is a giant choke somewhere in the application, wouldn't you think that is unmasked when a drop down menu happens to be showing?  Try it and see if you get similar results.  If this happens w/ other users/planes it would be worth sharing w/ LM as double frame rates is nothing to scoff at.  To be accurate the increase was not always double, but it was always big and when flying around areas near PHNL frames went from 60 to 108 in the Duke. 

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Have't tried this trick w/ other aircraft...


Noel

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That's not an accurate frame count... with the menu having the focus, FRAPS is seeing it's frame rate, not the background window which is the actual sim.


Ed Wilson

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That's not an accurate frame count... with the menu having the focus, FRAPS is seeing it's frame rate, not the background window which is the actual sim.

 

Very correct.  Although I sure did a double take the first time I saw it happen! :O


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When I saw the title of the thread, I grinned and thought "Its just been out a few days, and we already have Miracle Cure threads"

 

This is going to be an interesting ride, apparently.  :smile:


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OK well I kinda thought so but wasn't sure.  I wonder if that is what we are seeing with the mouse pointer visible impact--one can 'park' the pointer on the top menu bar in full screen mode in FSX and frame rate would climb but I really believe frame rate did go up because this was reflected in the simulation video which smoothed out and improved as frame rate climbed up.  And this in turn makes me wonder if the explanation you are providing is really accurate.  For starters, fraps doesn't jump over to the item in focus.  The acid test is easy to do--just go to an ultra dense area w/ max settings so you have a frame rate of say 18 or even 15.  Do the 'trick' and see--you'll easily note a change in video quality if the explanation here is not valid.

 

Also, whenver the sim suddenly drops frame rate it has been explained that it may be V2 'losing focus' and we were advised to 'just click somewhere in the VC....' to restore focus.   Now it seems we are explaining two opposite changes w/ the same explanation-if frames go up it's because another window or process now has focus, and if frames go down it's because another window or process now has focus.


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I'm not sure why you didn't used shift+z for this test.

 

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I'm not sure why you didn't used shift+z for this test.

 

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Well there ya go--I'm not sure either!  OK, will go give that a try right now n see, which maybe you have done already?


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Aircraft used in A Pilot's Life V2:  PMDG 738, Aerosoft CRJ700, FBW A320nx, WT 787X

 

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Hi folks!

I get the same result as he has. Whenever the menu is displayed, I have fewer frames than when it isn't. I can see a 10-15FPS difference when I hide the menu bar. It was quite surprising at first. From that time onwards, I hid the bar whenever I use P3D V2. I posted this kind of "trick" in the tips and tricks section of the forum.

 

Cheers!


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This seems to be more of a "Focus" issue than the actual menus being displayed.

 

I am at ORBX Coffs Harbour getting about 80 FPS, Full Screen, no menu bar displayed, active runway, doing nothing.

If I right click on the screen to bring up the right click menu FPS drop to about 65.

However if I leave the right click menu displayed and just move the mouse pointer around on the screen the FPS return to 80.

 

Ok back at ORBX Coffs Harbour getting about 80 FPS, Full Screen, no top menu bar displayed ,active runway, doing nothing.

I hit ALT to bring up the menu bar and FPS drop to 60.

But left clicking anywhere on the screen brings the FPS back to 80, with the menu bar still displayed.

 

So on my system hiding or showing either menu
makes no difference as long as the focus is returned to the display area.

 

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