To be or not to be P3D V.2?

[ronnie.d 4]

 

Hi guys,

 

I know there is a mammoth amount of discussion going on the latest version of P3D, it's pros and cons etc. and I am a bit late to join the party, but I have got a problem of my own and I want your suggestions...

 

I have got a moderate machine with 3.0 GhZ Quad core (2 processors), Windows 7 Pro. 64 bit, 8 GB RAM, Nvidia Geforce 2GB DDR5 Graphics card.

 

It was working fine with PMDG 737 and FS2Crew until I download REX essential + Overdrive. With REX my FSX frame rate took a hard hit but now with FTX England and Active Sky Next on top of it I can barely finish a full flight. System either crashes or everything blacks out.

 

I am wondering if migrating to P3D will offer any improvement keeping in mind that I want to use a migration software to use my fsx add ons. 

 

I can compromise FTX but I really want to use Active sky's weather engine and REX's texture. 

 

So should I transfer to P3D or do I need to upgrade my machine?

 

Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated!

 

Cheers,

Ronnie

 

[alainneedle1 97]

You will need to upgrade your machine (unless you want to keep the sliders to a minimum) + today's add on ARE NOT optimized for P3D, if you want to try P3D do it without add on, you will have problems with existing add on and P3D, staying with FSX for now without overloading your machine with add on is my suggestion. (you can always upgrade your machine for FSX if you got the cash to spend)

[Brian Doney 127]

First, which GPU ? Specifically what model ?

 

Secondly, what are you looking for out of your sim ? For the moment, not much doing with addons in P3D2, as much as many try to force the issue (usually to their detriment). Activesky is not working properly with P3D2 for now, in fact I believe only Opus is working well.

 

Third, do you have the patience to work through understanding the significant differences between how the two sims tick ? If you're not willing to take a good bit of time to tune the sim to your hardware, it might be best to wait it out a bit longer.

 

Finally, I'd have to say that there really isn't a whole lot of actual benefit to P3D2 right now, unless you are just curious and would like to start learning the ways of the new sim now. There is a good long road ahead before P3D2 will even be remotely capable of outright replacing FSX. I enjoy it quite a bit, but then I keep my expectations in check.

 

If you're just bored, well, maybe an addon for your current sim would be a better investment, at least for now.

 

My 3c

[ronnie.d 4]

 

 

 

GPU - Asus Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 Graphics Card (2GB GDDR5, PCI Express 3.0, HDMI

 

What am I looking for - A bit of both performance and aesthetics.

 

Do I have the patience?  - I don't have time. I do it as a hobby and barely have the time to fly once a week but during that one flight I want some realistic feeling.

[peppy197 165]

ASNext will not work in P3DV2

and OPUS is iffy at the moment, though promissing (???)

[ronnie.d 4]

 

[WR269 367]

Hi guys,

 

I know there is a mammoth amount of discussion going on the latest version of P3D, it's pros and cons etc. and I am a bit late to join the party, but I have got a problem of my own and I want your suggestions...

 

I have basically the same set up as you. My GPU is a GTX660. I can run P3D2 with a lot of Orbx sceneries and payware aircraft and have a wonderful experience. They have a 60 day refund policy, give it a try.

 

You need to make your own mind up.

 

A lot of very vocal people dont even own P3D2 but will tell you against it, others love it, others believe it is no better than FSX or it is too difficult to make their FSX add ons work.

 

The SDK for P3D2 is different from the older sims so there will be compatibility issues. In my books, that is a very good thing.

 

Give it a test and see if it is for you.

 

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[Brian Doney 127]

 

 

 

GPU - Asus Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 Graphics Card (2GB GDDR5, PCI Express 3.0, HDMI

 

What am I looking for - A bit of both performance and aesthetics.

 

Do I have the patience?  - I don't have time. I do it as a hobby and barely have the time to fly once a week but during that one flight I want some realistic feeling.

 

 

 

Well I'd recommend you just wait/skip P3D2 at least for the short term. I don't think you'd get much enjoyment out of it to be perfectly honest.

 

A GTX 650 is really stretching it, and as I said, it would take some time for you to adjust to.

 

A new platform, especially one this new, is never a good place for those that just want to jump in and fly. 

[ronnie.d 4]

Ohhhhh thanks a lot Will!!!! That gives me some hope…. 

:dance:

[Brian Doney 127]

I have basically the same set up as you. My GPU is a GTX660. I can run P3D2 with a lot of Orbx sceneries and payware aircraft and have a wonderful experience. They have a 60 day refund policy, give it a try.

 

You need to make your own mind up.

 

A lot of very vocal people dont even own P3D2 but will tell you against it, others love it, others believe it is no better than FSX or it is too difficult to make their FSX add ons work.

 

The SDK for P3D2 is different from the older sims so there will be compatibility issues. In my books, that is a very good thing.

 

Give it a test and see if it is for you.

 

Sent from my Mobile thing

 

I agree mostly, but a 660 is a good deal more powerful than a 650.

 

I think that might be setting him up for some disappointment, which I swear we have more than enough of in this forum already  :lol:

[meshman 109]

Not to be a party pooper, but... If you have a particular preference towards a certain 737, you will find that it is not supported for P3D. At this point in time. Maybe somewhere down the road?

[WR269 367]

Ohhhhh thanks a lot Will!!!! That gives me some hope….

:dance:

Just remember, despite what people tell you, this is NOT FSX!

 

dont try to replicate the sliders etc to what you had. You have a blank canvas, adjust the sliders until your sim works well. I flew the Twotter last night, moved the autogen slider from normal to sparse, hardly made a visual difference. Dont be afraid to experiment until you have a good stable rig.

 

Sent from my Mobile thing

 

 

[mganz121 159]

Not to be a party pooper, but... If you have a particular preference towards a certain 737, you will find that it is not supported for P3D. At this point in time. Maybe somewhere down the road?

 

But my "secret" 737 is working fine. But there again, I don't need any support  :lol:

[mganz121 159]

The only thing I can add to both Will's and Brian's comments (because I think they are both right in their own ways), is to try it and see. After all, if it does not work for you, you can get a refund!! 

 

From my own perspective it works for me very well and that's with a lowly i5 quad 2.6 overclocked to 3.3 with a GTX560Ti card. The key is to resist the urge to slam those sliders to the right and it is quite possible that you might be pleasantly surprised when trying to compare the two. But don't forget, this is not FSX. Oh, did I say you can get a refund if it does not work for you?

 

I'm glad I gave it a try because I now have two toys to play with that are, well, quite similar ...... yet worlds apart.

[Brian Doney 127]

The refund thing is a very good point, and one I forgot completely. 

 

From what I hear they are very easy to deal with regarding refunds too so, yeah, I guess you really have nothing to lose.