January 13, 201412 yr Hello, my name is Renato Lazzari, am 55 years old and I am beginner with FS and even more with AFCad221. I would like to remove buildings and a water reservoir that appear on an airport runway, as seen in the picture I attached here. I think of "cementing" the whole area around the airport. Or you could create a file, I see in other airports, called "exclude" - is it for this that these "exclude" serve? -, since these buildings seem to be the default FS9 and not "leave" the runway nor putting the scenario (AF2_SDTK.BLG, which I can't upload here but I can send if it helps) first in the scenery settings. But I'd really like is some indication of how I do what I want to do. Thank you
January 13, 201412 yr Hi Renato, You can remove them, but you'll need to learn a little about airport design as it is in FS. I'd recommend using a program called Airport Design Editor (ADE). It's free and you can find it here: http://www.airportdesigneditor.co.uk/ It's pretty simple once you get the hang of it. You just need to add an exclusion around the runway. Cheers, Jeff "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." -Leonardo da Vinci (some experts question the attribution, but I'll go with it for now.)
January 13, 201412 yr Looks like autogen objects. You need an exclude file indeed. Excludes can be made with either exclude builder (exclude_builderv2.zip) or with ADE. There is even a tutorial how to use Exclude Builder here at Avsim (excbld_tutorial.zip).
January 14, 201412 yr AFCAD2.21 is very old software and not really recommended as it will strip out important features without warning that may be in the file you are editing (because it doesn't understand them). If the airport you illustrate is one you have edited that wasn't like this beforehand, this is probably exactly what has happened. If the airport is something new you have built that isn't the case - as has been said, you need to tell FS to "exclude" the unwanted objects. Although Airport Design Editor (mentioned above) is a very advanced equivalent that will handle things like this capably, there is a steep learning curve. If you would prefer to work with software similar to AFCAD, the commercially available AFX software will do the job easily and excellently. It will not delete existing "exclude boxes" and will let you add your own. As has been mentioned above, the other way to do it is to use separate software that creates a separate file containing the "exclude" data which works just fine but it is additional software to learn how to use. Hoping this helps. John My co-pilot's name is Sid and he's a star! http://www.adventure-unlimited.org
January 14, 201412 yr Author Thank you all for the answers, I have downloaded the new program and I enjoy myself a little bit here with them. John, recovering from an accident, a broken leg, I'll take my chances with the Airport Design Editor. But if the learning curve is greater than the recovery, I'll take a xeretada in AFX. You know the name or website that makes it?
January 14, 201412 yr Yes, if ADE turns out good for you, that's the best way to go. The only source of AFX I know is here: http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=afxv1 Best wishes, and repair soon, John My co-pilot's name is Sid and he's a star! http://www.adventure-unlimited.org
January 14, 201412 yr AFX from Flight1 is the best and easiest tool for "surgical" excludes. It removes not only autogen objects, but also static ones like ships. Bernard Visit: Retroavia Forum - FS9 in the pasts
January 15, 201412 yr Author Hi, Well, I've downloaded and installed to ADE and a demo version of AFX. They seemed very dificult for me because I just need to change one airport. Then I'm trying excbuilder version 2. I got a XML file to exclude just one object from SDTK runway but now I got a difficul problem to understand: As the airport i'm working in is in Brazil, all the coordinates are negatives. I guess BGLCOMP have some trouble compiling XMLs like this. This program compiles ok the example that comes togheter the excbuilder (execlude_cougar_trees.xml) but it refuses the mine. If someone could take a look in that... The mine, excl_paraty.xml version 1: <?xml version="1.0"?><FSData version = "9.0" xmlns:xsi='http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance' xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="bglcomp.xsd" > <ExclusionRectangle latitudeMinimum = "-23,215040893284" latitudeMaximum = "-23,2148282353837" longitudeMinimum = "-44,7191451642855" longitudeMaximum = "-44,7189031004053" excludeGenericBuildingObjects = "TRUE" /></FSData> The answer from BLGCOMP: Parsing document: excl_paraty.xmlERROR C2344: LatitudeMinimum MUST be less than LatitudeMaximum!ERROR C2031: Failed element parse <ExclusionRectangle>ERROR C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:ERROR: <FSDataERROR: version = 9.0ERROR: >ERROR: <ExclusionRectangleERROR: latitudeMinimum = -23,215040893284ERROR: latitudeMaximum = -23,2148282353837ERROR: longitudeMinimum = -44,7191451642855ERROR: longitudeMaximum = -44,7189031004053ERROR: excludeGenericBuildingObjects = TRUEERROR: >ERROR:ERROR: Compilation errors detected, compilation failed!Parse complete! Then, just to try, just in case, I've changed the excl_paraty.xml to: <?xml version="1.0"?><FSData version = "9.0" xmlns:xsi='http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance' xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="bglcomp.xsd" > <ExclusionRectangle latitudeMinimum = "-23,2148282353837" latitudeMaximum = "-23,215040893284" longitudeMinimum = "-44,7191451642855" longitudeMaximum = "-44,7189031004053" excludeGenericBuildingObjects = "TRUE" /></FSData> and now the anwer from BGLCOMP is quite the same: Parsing document: excl_paraty.xmlERROR C2344: LatitudeMinimum MUST be less than LatitudeMaximum!ERROR C2031: Failed element parse <ExclusionRectangle>ERROR C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:ERROR: <FSDataERROR: version = 9.0ERROR: >ERROR: <ExclusionRectangleERROR: latitudeMinimum = -23,2148282353837ERROR: latitudeMaximum = -23,215040893284ERROR: longitudeMinimum = -44,7191451642855ERROR: longitudeMaximum = -44,7189031004053ERROR: excludeGenericBuildingObjects = TRUEERROR: >ERROR:ERROR: Compilation errors detected, compilation failed!Parse complete! It seems it doesn't matter for the parse program if a greater negative number is less than a small one... The files I have in Windows\System32 to parse my file are: 06/06/2012 03:05 1.236.992 msxml3.dll26/06/2010 01:24 2.048 msxml3r.dll22/01/2009 03:13 1.328.968 msxml4.dll22/01/2009 03:12 88.904 msxml4r.dll01/11/2012 02:47 1.389.568 msxml6.dll13/07/2009 23:07 2.048 msxml6r.dll and I'm sure I can uninstall all of them because there is not another application using it. Actualy I've installed them (and got more recent versions) just for excbuilder. So I could uninstal any if it is confusing the BGLCOMP. As the airport has three or four objects in the runway, I though to do the same number of exclude files. But I can't do neither the first one... Can someone understand (and help me) with that? :biggrin:
January 15, 201412 yr I have a similar problem w/ Cloud9 KMCO, where there's a building on the taxiway connecting RWY 17/35 to the rest of the ARPT Jetline Systems Gravity GTX | i9 9900K 5.0GHz | Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Ultra MB | RTX 2080 Ti OC Edition | 64GB Corsair DDR4 3200 SDRAM | Samsung 970 Pro M.2 NVMe PCIe 1TB SSD | 2x ASUS 32" 4K Monitors | Windows 10 | P3dv4.5 64Bit
January 15, 201412 yr Try replacing the commas with periods and test. regards, Joe The best gift you can give your children is your time.
January 16, 201412 yr @mlazzari Maybe you specify where exactly you got the problem. Brazil is big ... Bernard Visit: Retroavia Forum - FS9 in the pasts
January 16, 201412 yr I got a XML file to exclude just one object from SDTK runway but now I got a difficul problem to understand: Hi, Renato When you create an exclude with ExcludeBuilder, always orientate you self at the north west corner of the area to exclude. Not doing so will result in the errors you are seeing. With ExcludeBuilder you locate yourself at the NW corner of the area to exclude, click - move to the SE corner and click. That takes care of the "ERROR C2344: LatitudeMinimum MUST be less than LatitudeMaximum!" problem. ADE makes the operation much more simple and will include the excluded(s) right in the airport file you create so you will have fewer files to deal with. If you are using ADE, the program can do that for you to help remove the autogen objects from your new airport. In addition to that you will be able to create a flatten polygon around you new airport so your runway and added objects sit nicely on the ground. Regards, Mel
January 16, 201412 yr Author Many thanks to all, especially to Joe, whose suggestion worked! In Brazil we actually use a comma to separate decimals but BGLCOMP is not Brazilian. With point worked. I chose to create three files for exclusion: one for the runway, one for the taxiway from courtyard to the runwayand the third for the courtyard. The scenery now became very good!And confirmed: a larger negative number is smaller in magnitude, hehe ... Now I can take off and land the beautiful town of Paraty, a colonial city that for those who are in the U.S. remember New Orleans, but the Brazilian way.Everyone is invited. :smile: Thank you again! Renato. P.S.: Excuse my horrible English, pls, it's an automatic translation.
January 16, 201412 yr P.S.: Excuse my horrible English, pls, it's an automatic translation. If that's an automatic translation, it's the best I've ever seen. What translator are you using? Glad you got the problem solved. Hook Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
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