damage modeling I know of is flight unimited 3 great sim but pretty long in the tooth.

 

Ah, I remember Flight Unlimited 3. Great game - I remember playing that when I was only 5. The memories!

 

I don't really mind the lack of simulated crashes, but I guess it would be cool.

That's been around for the last ten years or more. It hasn't progressed all that much since I first heard of it, per se... B)

 

I wonder about this. All interviews place the founding of this company at around 2010, and I see no references to it earlier than that. Are you thinking of Viewterra or some other engine?

I wonder about this. All interviews place the founding of this company at around 2010, and I see no references to it earlier than that. Are you thinking of Viewterra or some other engine?

Okay, so I was off by two years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outerra

Outerra is a Slovakian computer software company best known for its unreleased middleware 3D planetary graphics engine, called Outerra engine, in development since 2008.

It's interesting but it'll never replace MSFS. Something better and dedicated will come along before that thing ever gets out of alpha build.

They removed the damage modelling in 1999, before 9/11 and it was at the request of the Aircraft Manufacturers. Cessna, Boeing, Bombardier etc don't like their products seen damaged or breaking up in a flight simulator. That was the reason the damage modelling was removed and it wasn't anything to do with 9/11

 

This is understandable, if I was a manufacturer, I wouldn't allow my product to be used in a simulation that shows it breaking apart or damaging etc either. Simulators are good for product marketing but showing the product damaged is not good for marketing.

 

They didn't really remove it, but rather just disabled it by default in the code. You can re-enable it for any aircraft made for FS2004 and below by adding visual_damage=1 to each [fltsim] entry.

Okay, so I was off by two years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outerra

 

I was just questioning about the ten years or more. Even if they had a blog in 2008, that makes them 6 years old or so. And the wikki paperwork linked says incorporated 2010 in Slovakia. There are good reasons for caution, but saying they have been around for 10 years and have have not progressed much seems to paint a pessimistic picture based on incorrect information.

 

It's interesting but it'll never replace MSFS. Something better and dedicated will come along before that thing ever gets out of alpha build.

 

You could be perfectly right. Outera could prove unsuitable in some way, or be superseded by other developments or simply fail on its own terms. You could also be wrong, since Outerra already does things that others claimed firmly and forcefully was not possible by such engines.

 

My question would be: What exactly do we lose by giving them the benefit of a doubt and a chance to prove themselves?

 

I'm thinking of an old saying about there never seeming to be enough time to do it right, but always more than enough to do it over. Its taken Outerra a while? It costs me not a single thing to sit back and give them the time (and if I can, maybe even the assistance) to do it right, on their terms. Or to fail. if it comes to that.

 

I'd hate to think its going to come down to FSX in aeternum!  :lol:

Well, I have just moved again, and feel a lot better where I am, for many reasons: Flight Gear 3 !!!

 

It's a great sim by itself, and IMO, has a very nice future. I keep an eye on Outerra, of course, ELITE v9 and then V10.

 

Appart from FG3 I use ELITE v8.6, IL2 Sturmovik, now in "Open Alfa" but already very good, and also use DCS World.

 

But what I really look fwd is this!!!

 

http://aerowinx.com/assets/pics/psxA59vabb3eo1.jpg

 

When released, it's going to be, again, the best 747-400 PC-based sim available EVER!

 

Might get released this year :-)))))))  For me, FG3, ELITE V9 and PSX are certainly going to be the Next Gen Civil flightsims, each for it's purpose...

DCS and IL2 Sturmovik on the Air Combat class.

Jcomm!!!!! Again!? Arrrggghhhhhh!!!!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Jcomm!!!!! Again!? Arrrggghhhhhh!!!!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

Yep! :-)

 

As for the OP, I can perfectly understand the author, and lately I've been having a great time making small flights to train  the IFR training scenarios that a friend is sending me, from his RL IFR course :-)

 

I start ELITE, fly the exercise, debrief it and learn what I did wrong... Takes no more than 30' each session so far!  It's a great way of spending my sim time....

Airliner flights? Forget it... at least until PSX get's available

 

Nice weather, nice/ plausible scenery and nice aircraft to fly, without spending a single cent? Flight Gear, it's getting better and better and we get a new version every 6 months...

You are gonna run out of sims, Jcomm! :-)

Nice weather, nice/ plausible scenery and nice aircraft to fly, without spending a single cent? Flight Gear, it's getting better and better and we get a new version every 6 months...

 

I like the idea of FG being free and open-source, and I'll probably get round to trying it again in a year or two when it develops further. But for now I'm finding the highly detailed virtual environment of 'you know what' just too much fun to fly in....

 

 

 

Look! no wings '-)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-xlk_qxZ88&t=0m35s

Edited February 19, 201412 yr by TooWings

GTA looks great! :-)