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Option for FMC to use data from FSX instead of AIRAC

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HI

 

Much as I like the PMDG, its a pain to finally choose destination airport only to find its not in PMDG FMC cause name has changed etc.

 

For those who don't plan to fly online like my self is there a no hassle fix for this other than spending hours messing about with ADE deleting ICAO and building new airport myself(Never).

 

Is it possible for PMDG to provide option in their FMC for those who don't fly online, so the FMC uses FSX database as I have it.

 

The world to PMDG FMC is FSX, and its a really hard job trying to get the PMDG FMC to see that, it keeps going after data in the real world. and I cant keep up with that. airport name changes, runway angle changes grrr too much.

 

Would be nice to have PMDG FMC I can fly to any airport in my FSX database, without having to worry if ICAO matches fsx or runway angles and Ils data match

 

PMDG ps help us simplify the FMC maintenance for users by providing option for FMC to use FSX  nav data.

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well but we only need a small part of the navigation database. PMDG is using a lot more for waypoints and so on. I dont think, its that simple. But you may check the PMDG airac, check the output of makerunway and maybe someone can write some kinda converter with PHP or something. I could basically do it (without really thinking about if there is anything missing) but i dont have time right now.

Tebin Ulrich

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well but we only need a small part of the navigation database. PMDG is using a lot more for waypoints and so on. I dont think, its that simple. But you may check the PMDG airac, check the output of makerunway and maybe someone can write some kinda converter with PHP or something. I could basically do it (without really thinking about if there is anything missing) but i dont have time right now.

Just checking are you with PMDG, or AVSIM user. 

 

Sounds good to hear something is possible, would patiently wait for any updates you have for me on this.

 

How do you expect this solution will work, is it gona be an option in the FMC.

 

cheers

Using only the FSX navigation database would mean NO SIDS or STARS, as they don't exist in the FSX default database, and though FSX does have airways, they are years out of date.

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

Just checking are you with PMDG, or AVSIM user. 

 

Sounds good to hear something is possible, would patiently wait for any updates you have for me on this.

 

How do you expect this solution will work, is it gona be an option in the FMC.

 

cheers

 

i am not working for PMDG. I started developing a tool that you may know by the name of FS2Crew RAAS. I didnt say its possible (because i didnt check what PMDG needs). Its maybe possible but chances are, there will be something missing and it wont work at all. I am lazy right now so you may try it yourself. Create the export files with makerunway, check the files, try to put them into a format that looks like the PMDG airac and read the EULA and every other legal text before you do so. Not sure if that is even allowed.

Tebin Ulrich

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Um, Jim... FSX does have some STARs included by default. No SIDs however...

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Using only the FSX navigation database would mean NO SIDS or STARS, as they don't exist in the FSX default database, and though FSX does have airways, they are years out of date.

 

I will very gladly give up sid, star,  and up to date airways, for a database I don't have to manage. I prefer to update my fsx database if possible, but not running around each addon updating each separately .

 

i am not working for PMDG. I started developing a tool that you may know by the name of FS2Crew RAAS. I didnt say its possible (because i didnt check what PMDG needs). Its maybe possible but chances are, there will be something missing and it wont work at all. I am lazy right now so you may try it yourself. Create the export files with makerunway, check the files, try to put them into a format that looks like the PMDG airac and read the EULA and every other legal text before you do so. Not sure if that is even allowed.

Thanks for the info. I keep my hopes hope PMDG will add this option, as they are big on Simplification this days.

 

Imagine new user of PMDG product just want to test fly, the plane out of the box should not only have an option to use FSX database, but it should be the default setting. And any time you update your FSX databse, just like we do for FsCommander etc, you use PMDG FMC to update it to latest FSX.

 

cheers

Ironically, I did it the other way around. I updated the default FS2004 waypoints, so they would match the current AIRAC. Yes, I did say FS2004 as I don't use FSX, but the same could be done in FSX as well.

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Um, Jim... FSX does have some STARs included by default. No SIDs however...

¡No me digas! I did not know that. I've never actually used the default flight planner in FSX, all my flying is done in add-ons using Navigraph databases.

Jim Barrett

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¡No me digas! I did not know that. I've never actually used the default flight planner in FSX, all my flying is done in add-ons using Navigraph databases.

If I remember, you couldn't use STARs in the default flight planner. They're in the default GPS, but you'd have to pull up the procedures from there when you're in the aircraft.

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I keep my hopes hope PMDG will add this option, as they are big on Simplification this days.

 

Not going to happen so dont keep your hopes up. PMDG has enough work to do and are not going to make an option like this. I can assure you of that and i'm not even working for PMDG.

 

If you want a plane that uses default data bases you need to look at other vendors that make "lite" style aircraft.

 

Also why do you say PMDG are big on simplification these days?

 

Jim Burke

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Never heard of STARs in default. IAP's and transitions, yes. Can someone give an example?

Barry Friedman

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Absolutely zero chance we'll be doing this, sorry.
 

If you want flight plans that are guaranteed to work with the current navdata cycle, get PFPX - it'll make a reasonably realistic route from anywhere to anywhere for you using the current cycle.

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Much as I like the PMDG, its a pain to finally choose destination airport only to find its not in PMDG FMC cause name has changed etc.



For those who don't plan to fly online like my self is there a no hassle fix for this other than spending hours messing about with ADE deleting ICAO and building new airport myself(Never).

 

Hi, ZoomAir,

 

It isn't all that difficult to find and install AFCAD files for new or modified airports on AVSIM.  These will update existing airports (e.g. KIAD, KORD) or install new ones.    They are very easy to install or uninstall and require no additional software.  You don't need to create or modify your own using ADE.

 

Mike

 

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